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Apr 10, 2013

How to get rid of the 2nd anniversary garage

Do you think the gay-rage sucks? Well, here's a fix how to remove it.

Credit goes to Xoff who posted it on EU forums and to Folterknecht who made me aware of it.

Thanks guys. Tested it, works perfectly.


1) download the zip from the link (cca 10Mb)
2) unpack the content
3) copy the zip file content to your World of Tanks directory - you will have to overwrite some files
4) play :)

EU 2nd anniversary special will be identical to the US one

Just confirmed: the EU 2nd anniversary special will be identical to the US one.

US 2nd anniversary weekend special



- Q: "In 8.5, the Konisch gun damage for regular and gold shells was made the same, is it realistic?" A: "As soon as you provide us with the real life data on Konisch gun damage (measured in hitpoints), we will make it realistic"
- when smoke (as cover) is introduced, the cover mechanism of various objects (haystacks, walls etc.) won't be changed (they won't be added as camoproviding objects), there are too many of them
- various tanks have various tracks hitbox models, these models do not depend on the type of the suspension (torsion bars, Christie etc.), rather than on its shape
- you do recieve credits for caused module damage
- the archievements for the XP class badges (3rd Class to Master) for arty won't be revised
- trophy (captured) tanks will not be made for now
- some branches have regular vehicle - arty transfers, it is not yet clear what will happen to those transfers when the arty is stretched to tier 10, apparently they won't disappear all
- KV-1S to SU-152 transfer won't be implemented
- the Chinese TD and arty branches are not yet prepared, let alone modelled, no details will be told now
- shell (trajectory, impact) system won't be modified, it would get too complicated
- 0.8.5 test 2 will have a few minor bugs fixed
- Ferdinand won't be separated into the Elefant and Ferdinand tanks, because those two tanks are practically identical
- T-62A was the "ugly duckling" tank, the developers didn't want to implement it, but had to because they didn't find any proper alternative.
- the escort mode was tested but the devs decided it's not working and decided to scrap it
- WG cooperation with (implementation of) Raidcall, Teamspeak or Mumble? "No comment"
- Matilda 1 and Char 2C plans? "If there are any, I will tell"
- IS-3, IS-8 and 110 won't get a frontal armor buff on the spot where lower plate and upper plate meet
- it's not yet clear whether the Chinese TD branch will containt SU-100 and SU-152 copies
- Q (by a player named Mishkas88): "Will there be any changes in German tank properties in 8.5 test 2?" A: "No. And that 88 means you were born in 1988, right?" :)
- there are many factors as to what premium tanks will be implemented and what not
- apparently, the Chinese TD's are a mess - there is enough material to make two branches of them, but the devs are still thinking how to make it all fit together
- somewhere in the next few patches there will be a sound re-work, but music re-work is unlikely
- new anti-aliasing is scheduled for middle future (not as bad as distant - usually refers to 6 months - 1 year or so)
- there will be a new WG video, possibly explaining the shell penetration trajectory inside tank
- it's possible Korean War will appear in historical battles, Vietnam War most likely won't
- in the future, the sound engine will be updated
- visibility range restriction removal - doesn't have high priority, definitely won't come in 2013-2014
- HE shell splash has the shape of a sphere, not a circle
- the weird 2nd anniversary garage (SS: more like gay-rage) won't be optional
- T-70 will be made a 2-man vehicle before the 0.8.5 goes out

Czechoslovak armored recon

Hello everyone,

now, I doubt this will ever have anything to do with World of Tanks, as the vehicles this article is about are way too modern, but they are interesting nonetheless.

Armored recon of the Czechoslovak People's Army (ČSLA)

As any military expert will tell you, on-spot recon is very important for the modern army's operations. It was hower a Czechoslovak army's weakspot well until the early 80's. The reason for that was the fact that the Czechoslovak army didn't have a proper tracked (and reasonably armored) recon vehicle. Combat recoinnaissance was generally conducted by the OT-65 armored transporter (in its recon configuration). This vehicle was far from perfect and had a number of weakspots. For one, it's a wheeled vehicle, which by itself causes lower terrain passability. Its maneuverability was also low and even the heavier versions were insufficiently armed for the task. During the army divisional training in 1977 and 1981, this has become even more apparent.

Czechoslovak OT-65A

 The stopgap measure taken was the use of the BVP-1 IFV ("bojové vozidlo pěchoty" - the Czechoslovak copy of BMP-1) as a recon vehicle, but given the lack of the sophisticated optics and sensors, it was judged as inadequate and a decision was made in April 1983 by the Ministry of Industry to task Konštrukta Trenčín (a Slovak engineering company) to develop a specialized tracked recon vehicle, based on BVP-1. The basic project was ready by the end of 1984 and the project was given a code name "Svatava" (a Czech archaic female name, also a river in northern Bohemia) and designated as a "BPzV" - "Bojové Průzkumné Vozidlo" (English: Combat recon vehicle)

BPzV Svatava

The prototype (the work on which started in February 1985) was built on a modified BVP-1K platform. BVP-1K (the designation "K" - taken from Russian means "komandirskij", a commander vehicle). The difference between the standard BVP-1 and the command version includes:

  • additional radio station R-123M
  • additional radio station R-107T
  • additional UHF infantry company/platoon radio system RF-10 (for communicating with infantry), plus additional powersources for all these devices
  • improved intercoms and remote controls for the additional radio equipment
  • 2 pieces of field telephone plus cables
  • TNA-3 navigation system
There were however further modifications to the design. The commander's copula with a specialised laser rangefinder of Czech origin was developed at VÚ Doksy, while the SDIO laser rangefinder itself was of Czech origin too (made by VÚ-060 Prague).

The prototype was ready in July 1985. The vehicle was armed with the 73mm 2A28 smoothbore gun and the PKT machinegun. It however also had an ATGM launcher for the 9M14M "Malyutka" missiles (NATO designation: AT-3 Sagger). The vehicle also had an 81mm smoke grenade launcher, NNP-21 night vision device, PSNR-5 ground radar, MRP-4 seeker radiolocator and a TNA-3 navigation device. For its time and for the possibilities of the Czechoslovak army, the vehicle was pretty sophisticated.

The first tests were held later in July and continued till September. The parameters were:

Weight: 13,9 tons
Armor: 6-23mm (similiar to the BVP-1)
Engine: UTD-20 16 liter V6,  295hp (980 Nm torque)
Transmission: mechanical 5+1
Road speed: 65 km/h
Terrain speed: 45 km/h
Floating speed (the vehicle is amphibious): 5 km/h
Armament: 73mm smoothbore 2A28 (400 m/s muzzle velocity PG-15V HEAT shell, 300mm penetration), PKT machinegun, AT-3 Sagger
Extra equipment:

  • PSNR-5 radar
  • MRP-4 seeker radiolocator
  • NNP-21 night vision device
  • TNA-3 navigation device
  • PAB-2A compass
  • laser rangefinder
  • laser detection and indication system
  • ÚV-20 water purifier
  • OS-3 decontamination unit for operations in NBC-polluted areas
The test showed that by adding hydraulic shock absorbers on 2nd roadwheel pair, the handling properties and ride smoothness have been significantly improved compared to the original BVP-1. Additional fuel tanks were added to the design, increasing its operational range by 150km (to cca 700km). Some problems with watertight compartments and the laser rangefinder were uncovered during the tests - those were fixed until October 1987. In further tests the vehicle succeeded and it was accepted into ČSLA service as "BPzV Svatava".

Between 1988-1990, 200 pieces were made. 16 were bought by the Polish army, which called them BWP-1S (Bojowy wóz rozpoznawczy-1 Swatawa). In the Czechoslovak army, the vehicle was used in tank and motorized infantry regiment recon companies. It is possible (although speculative) that the East-German army was testing the vehicle also, but never bought any.

Slovak army Svatava

After the Czech Republic/Slovak Republic split, Czech army was using the Svatava vehicle until 2009, when it was declared obsolete and the last surviving 12 Svatavas were decommissioned. It was replaced by BVP-2 (licensed BMP-2) vehicles (without any recon equipment).

Svatava's successor

In 1988, the development of the replacement vehicle was started. It was decided to use the BVP-2 (BMP-2) platform. The project was developed between 1988 and 1990, when it was cancelled under the name of BPzV Sněžka (Sněžka, in German "Schneekoppe", is the tallest mountain of Czech Republic). The AT-4 Spigot (9M113 Konkurs rocket) launcher was removed, the only weapons to stay were the 2A42 30mm autocannon and the PKT machinegun. The vehicle was equipped with television and thermovision sets and an independent electric source for the recon systems. Only a prototype was made, the vehicle was never accepted to service. This is how it looked:

Further specifications are unknown. There was apparently a second project of a BVP-2-based recon vehicle, designated "Vyšehrad". It is not clear in fact, whether it's the same vehicle or a different project, not much is known apart from the fact it existed.

Epilogue - OT Zubr and Pandur vehicles

Have you ever heard of the OT Zubr by PSP (not to be mistaken by the Polish Zubr armored vehicle, that's something else)? No? Well, no wonder. It was an independent wheeled APC/IFV project from the early 90's by a Czech company PSP Přerov - and a good one too. Its fate however was a sad one. Last year, I have been in personal contact with a representative of the current company, PSP Engineering, which is PSP Přerov's leal successor, in order to find  the original ZUBR blueprints. What I found out was the history: PSP was a relatively successful company and in the early 90's, when the communists were "thrown down" in the so-called "Velvet revolution" (read: they gave power to Vaclav Havel's cronies in exchange for economic power in the country, many of the old communists and secret service agents are the current Czechoslovak billionaires, for example Andrej Babiš and others), Václav Havel, who was paid by the Americans, completely destroyed Czechoslovak military industry. One of his victims was the PSP Přerov's "Zubr" project. Only a promo leaflet scan now remains public. This is how it would have looked:

After PSP went bankrupt and was bought by American investors, the original plans were not considered interesting and they were destroyed. A copy most likely remains in the Czech military archives, but I believe it is still classified, haven't looked into it yet.

A decade later, instead of supporting local military development, the politicians decided to buy the Austrian Pandur II wheeled for Czech army (72 pieces) - to be fair, certain Czech companies participate on its manufacture. One of the roles it fulfills is combat recon. It's not a bad vehicle, but the whole thing ended up as a huge scandal, as the vehicles were purchased for several times the price given to other customers - it turned out to be a huge corruption case and it is being investigated till now.

my own research

Fake American Vehicles

Author: Priory_of_Sion

The American Tech Tree is full of limited production vehicles, prototypes, and paper tanks. However there are 5 tank destroyers that push the limits of reality. They are the T25, T25/2, T28 Prototype, T28, and the T110E4.

The T25 tank destroyer comes from 1943 models of a T23 medium tank chassis mounting a modified version of a 90 mm AA gun which eventually became the M3 90 mm gun. The model shown might not look exactly like the T23 chassis(looks like an T1/M6) but it is according to the Bible of Americans: Hunnicutt's Pershing: A History of the Medium Tank T20 Series. For some reason or another WG decided not to call the T25 the T23 AT which would be a much more fitting name IMO.

The T25/2 is different. There is no documentation anywhere that I have looked that shows a T23 chassis mounting an M36 turret. This combination is possible however(69 inch turret ring is the same for the T23 and the Jackson) and the M36 turret was designed in the same time frame as the T20 series and variants were being proposed. The T25/2 is still hypothetical IMO. The actual T25 medium tank mounted the M3 90 mm gun in a fully enclosed turret and would obsolete the T23 w/ M36 turret immediately. This T25 medium led to the Pershing. In conclusion the T25/2 should be removed until/if further information surfaces.

To replace the T25/2 WG should look at the actual 90 mm armed T25, specifically the T25E1 #13 which was a modified T25 using a range finder system. The redesignation of the T25E1 from medium to TD won't be new (T30) and the T25E1 would be able to mount the 105 mm T5E1 gun.

This is the T25E1 #13 fitted with a new range finder system.

This is a proposal for mounting the T5E1 gun in a modified T25E1 #13. The T25E1 #13 could be an adequate tier 8 TD if given good enough mobility, turret armor, and better gun characteristics than the T32(the same tier heavy tank). 

Since I hinted at a tier 8 T25E1 #13 that leaves a gap at tier 7, well the T78 could fill that role. The T78 was a proposed TD based on the T24 light tank chassis using the M36 turret. If upgraded to a better 90 mm the T78 would be a fine tier 7 TD. The_Chieftain has informed me that WG is apparently aware of the T78 tank destroyer, I am not 100% sure what this means though. No pictures exist as far as I know but I am sure someone could model a T24 Light Tank with an M36 turret fairly easily.

The T28 Prototype is a tank called a complete fake by many but it does have some basis in the real world. The T28 Prototype was in reality a conceptual drawing for the T28 project in 1943. No real plans were ever made of this Concept T28 as far as I know. However recently a model of a vehicle was sold over the Internet might be related to the T28 Prototype, this model is extremely likely to be a model made for the T28 in the developmental stage in early 1943. This model seems to use the T5 105 mm gun which was originally planned and should have very thick(200 mm+) armor.
WG took this concept and ran with it.

I am not 100% sold on the validity of this model, but I am fairly sure it is not a fake. Looks cooler than the T28 Prototype IMO.

WG should consider removing the model we have in WoT and replacing it the more concrete model if we can find any specifications on it.

The T28 is not a fake tank, however WG screwed it up. You see the T28 and the T95 were the exact same vehicle. The model we have shows how a T28/T95 would look without the tracks.

Still the T28 is wrong...

Look at the frontal armor, that frontal glacis plate has been added for no reason. 

WG could do two things to make the T28 (more) accurate. First they could just remove that glacis plate, pretty easy change. Or they could however remove the T28 we have entirely, rename the T95 the T28/T95 and have the T28 Prototype (the model) become tier 8 since the T25E1 #13 is tier 8 in the other line. I would like the 2nd to happen, but that isn't likely to happen.

Now the T110E4 was a real design, however in WoT that design is called the T110E3. The T110E3 and T110E4 were almost identical and only slight changes were made for the T110E3 to become the T110E4. There has never been an attempt to mount a turret in any T110 vehicle besides the T110E5. The T110E4 in WoT and its turret is WG's creation. WG also forgot that all the T110 tanks used the 120 mm gun, there was never any proposed 155 mm armed T110s.
This is the T110E4, a turret would be impossible for this vehicle.

So what could be a tier X TD besides the fake T110E4? Well if you want a turreted TD you have a really good option with the H2. The H2 was a heavy tank project from one of the Question Mark Conferences. The H2 was to have similar armor to the M103 and the frontal armor was a negative slope. The gun was to be a modified 155 mm gun. So with the H2 you practically get an M103 with a T30 turret with tier X TD stats. A second choice would be the T58. The T58 was a 155 mm armed T57 in a new oscillating turret. I would think the H2 would be more practical to balance and implement. 
This is actually the H1, which is the same vehicle but mounts the 120 mm gun instead of the 155 mm.

This is the T58, I would advice against this vehicle for balance purposes.

The US TD line has some hypothetical and fake vehicles. Some are close to reality, some are perversions of what they were IRL. WG has the ability to create a historical accurate US TD line but so far no change is coming. 

This is my revised US TD tree from tier 6. I am planning a 3rd TD line but it isn't complete.

all by R. P. Hunnicutt