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May 7, 2013

7.5.2013

Confirmed: 0.8.6 will come in 3-4 weeks on RU server

- if I understand it correctly, Russian server now has a special program - if you click "I accept", data about your computer will be sent to Wargaming to "improve the game". According to SerB, many players accepted.
- SerB likes the WoT: Generals project, but prefers regular WoT
- damaging your tank by crashing into a stone/building is not planned
- according to SerB, snowy maps have the same tank traction as regular ones, eg. tanks don't drift more on snow... for now
- 76mm penetration on 59-16 is "historical", the 76mm gun is more or less analogical to the Soviet D-56T
- no official info on 0.8.6 for now ("will be announced officially")
- it's very unlikely old premium tanks will get an overhaul (even a visual one)
- it's confirmed that newly unlocked tanks have limited MM... unless there is a very low number of players (for example in very early morning), in which case this rule is suspended
- T58 Heavy will most likely not appear in the game
- it's possible Americans will get a new tier 8 LT
- there will probably be no American TD's with autoloaders (SerB: "I can't remember any")
- there will be no transfers from higher tier to lower tier in the tech tree (SS: as in unlocking a tier 6 vehicle from tier 7 vehicle of another branch)
- if I understand it correctly, in distant future (apparently), there will be a function implemented that players will actually recieve credits for when they detrack enemy vehicle and the enemy vehicle gets then damaged by others
- crewmembers dying from engine fire won't be implemented
- there is a chance even now for crewmembers to die from ramming
- 0.8.6 will bring some game optimalisation changes
- tanks flipping on their back will eventually implemented
- SerB on why premium tanks must be worse than regular ones: "We don't sell pwnage for money. If you are a good enough player to compensate for the premium tank disadvantages, you can both pwn and farm. Otherwise - either you can farm, or you can pwn. And enjoyment has to be archieved by raising your skill. Otherwise it's some kind of narcomania."
- new premium vehicles are planned
- WG employees sometimes play companies, they are "above average"
- the phenomenon of retards starting companies only to look for platoons won't be dealt with ("don't join such companies")
- if two scouts light up one enemy target, the LT getting spotting XP is the one the server declared to be first to light up
- it's possible that the Königstiger and Jagdtiger will have their max speed buffed like the IS-7 did, but not the horsepower (eg. only applies when going downhill)
- it's not planned for now for players to be able to buy more than one camouflage of the same kind

- in 0.8.6, arty experience will be bound to tier, eg. if you have 200k experience on T7 vehicle, it won't be transferred with the vehicle, it will stay on T7 regardless of whether the former T7 vehicle gets transferred to another tier or not
- the option to select the look of your hangar has been considered, but has low priority
- 0.8.6 arty leaks? "No comment"
- the moving Panther in the tutorial was done as an "active element". According to SerB, it's principially possible to make maps with such things as moving trains and cars, but this won't be done for now in WoT.
- 57mm autoloaded S-60 gun is not planned for now, but it might appear eventually, because such a gun was mounted on the PT-76, the penetration of this gun is equal to ZiS-4 (SS: 112mm in WoT)
- new tier 8 premium MT's? "When it's done, if at all"
- according to SerB there is no connection between the illegal "warpack" mod pack and the introduction of illegal WoT clones (SS: yes, people ask such daft stuff)
- the tank mobility calculation won't be published, it's "very complicated"
- premium MT with autoloader? ("if we ever plan such a thing, we'll tell you")
- improved armor mechanics in 0.8.6 are "just a part of the whole"
- all servers have the same game mechanics, this won't change
- in very far future, it's possible there will be researchable tank hulls as modules
- theoretically it's possible that on one map, there could be more variants of the same gamemode (SS: as in for example assault with the base on various spots), but the devs will most likely do no such thing, since the people are confused even now as it is
- tank visual models will be slowly re-made in order to prepare for the option of tanks flipping over (for example by adding bottom escape hatches), but this is not the deciding factor in this feature

77 comments:

  1. "- in 0.8.6, arty experience will be bound to tier, eg. if you have 200k experience on T7 vehicle, it won't be transferred with the vehicle, it will stay on T7 regardless of whether the former T7 vehicle gets transferred to another tier or not"

    I can see this being a major issue.

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    1. Wonderful, I've 200k xp on GWtiger (and hated every one of the games i did with it) and I'm in Germany, far away from my home and computer, so I will receive a GWpanther with 200k xp? 200k/25 = 8k gold. Well at least they gave us some times to adjust ourself. <3 WG <3

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    2. exactly my thoughts

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    3. no, it's not enough to nerf the arties... we will 'steal' your exp too and let you convert them to free xp for gold (= money).
      WG you are great.

      -.-

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    4. This is a retarded idea. Are you sure he said that? It makes no sense.

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    5. This is fucking cheating and a theft at least!

      Grrr

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    6. I'm all for screwing up arty players as much as possible, but only in game balance. But this is just too much, this is theft.

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    7. I would be furious if this is true. It's completely nuts!
      It won't be implemented... this is one of those things that is just plain wrong.

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    8. I just absolutely love seeing arty owner's butthurt :D
      For every hit arty shot at me over 1.5 years - it will get accumulated nerf.
      MWAHAHAHA!
      Revenge is sweet.

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    9. This would be amazing....

      if its true will be riots...

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    10. No, there will be not.
      Maybe a shitstorm but how many have already passed? Hm? Nothing to see here again.

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    11. SerB mess up his answer, check this out:
      Просмотр сообщенияiDrow (07 Май 2013 - 18:14) писал:
      Возможно торможу, но так и не понял. Если допустим мой ГВТ двинут вверх, то опыт останется на ГВТ или на арте 7 лвла?
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      SerB: Тогда на ГВТ. Если двинут.

      So T7 vehicle's exp remain in same vehicle even if it move to T9, not in the new vehicle of T7.

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    12. @Modron:
      Yup, XP stays at GW Tiger.

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    13. People always complain about arty, but never the guy that just flanked them and shot them in the Butt....

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  2. > Confirmed: 0.8.6 will come in 3-4 weeks on RU server

    where did you get this confirmation? :O

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    1. SerB said you have 3-4 weeks to level up the arty you need :)

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    2. 3-4 weeks to live update?!

      Holy crap.

      Or did I interpret that wrong?

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    3. Sooooo, does that mean that test server will be up soon(soon as in a week/two)?

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    4. It'd have to be.

      I'm genuinely shocked. Something feels too quick about such a timetable.

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    5. TBH, I doubt that. Considering the leaks about the continuous tier shifts in the supertest, the open test (which lasts in case of no problems 2 weeks) will reveal even more problems.

      DerP must have drunk too much vodka again.

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  3. "- it's possible that the Königstiger and Jagdtiger will have their max speed buffed like the IS-7 did, but not the horsepower (eg. only applies when going downhill)" about time, took them a while..

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    1. Well, they most likely lack the acceleration to get past 30 on flat. Effectively, it would just make them faster downhill, which is rather situational (though it would result in some lulzy rams).

      -Platypusbill

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    2. KT can easily go above 28. It goes uphill faster than a t34.

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    3. Actualy both KT and JT have pretty powerful engines right now and they achieve their present top speed (28km/h) pretty easily unlike IS-7, so this top speed buff might be really useful...on IS-7 not that much unless you go downhill..

      Medjed

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    4. xCaptainObviousxMay 7, 2013, 3:27:00 PM

      The KT have similar HP/ton but a bit worse track friction (13 hp/ton vs 14, 1.4 friction on standard soil vs 1.1) as the KV-1S, which easily reach 42 kph on flat ground.

      I'd expect the KT to reach about 35 kph on flat ground if the speed limit was removed entirely (which i seriously doubt will happen)

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  4. Yes, so for example I have a Obj 212 with 100kXP, I will end up with a new T7 with 100k XP. And they are completely worthless, because I will have researched T8 and T9 (new Obj212?) anyway?
    Seems like a VERY bad solution ...

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    1. that sounds like what it says...

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    2. What if I have 20k~ on 261 not yet used? Will it go to T10 with 261 or stay as useless exp on whatever's gonna be at T8?

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    3. i dont like it too, i have 175k on my lor155-51 and it will look really stupid

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    4. this seems like a very cruel solution to those of us who haven't quite made it to the tier8 arty piece

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    5. ^^ This seems like a very retarded solution to milk the cash from players to convert that exp with gold.....it's not like they don't earn enough monthly from premium accounts or other stuff bought by players...and actually that "change" or whatever it is doesn't make any sense at all...but hey, it's WG

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    6. Sixense, your 20k XP on 261 SHOULD go with it to T10. I can't believe they would leave it at Tier 8.
      In my opinion all arty and modules should be researched upto the level of your highest arty in the line. The XP needed for T8 arty has always been about the same as for T10 heavies. I really can't bear the though of having to go back and fill in the gaps.

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  5. >And enjoyment has to be archieved
    Achived*

    Archive in that sentence doesnt make sense

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    1. Achieved* not "achived"

      AMAGADTYPOSEVERYWHERE

      -Platypusbill

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  6. - it's confirmed that newly unlocked tanks have limited MM...

    WTF that means? when i unlocked indein panzer the first days, every battle was with T10s!!' limited my ass

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    1. It's only limited for Russian Tanks. lawl

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    2. Yes, it's limited...
      But the other way around! SURPRISE MOTHERF*****! :D

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  7. - SerB on why premium tanks must be worse than regular ones: "We don't sell pwnage for money. If you are a good enough player to compensate for the premium tank disadvantages, you can both pwn and farm. Otherwise - either you can farm, or you can pwn. And enjoyment has to be archieved by raising your skill. Otherwise it's some kind of narcomania."

    LOL thats why su-44-122 outclasses every td on its tier...

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    1. The difference in performance envelope has shrunk of late it seems.

      But when your 'competition' at tier 7 is the SU-152 and it's unbelievable DPM with the top 122, there's gonna be some warping.

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    2. Hey, at least SU-122-44 doesn't have preferential MM, unlike a certain popular tank...

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    3. No it doesn't. When thrown in hundreds of games across all types of maps, modes, and bad teammates the SU-122-44 does end up behind the T25, Jagdpanther, and possibly the Ac Mle 1946.
      The 122-44 is only OP in a tier 7 match, as soon as tier 8's and 9's show up its performance drops way behind most of the normal tier 7 TD's.

      Hell in a tier 9 match I'd rather have an SU-100M1 than the SU-122-44.

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  8. - if I understand it correctly, in distant future (apparently), there will be a function implemented that players will actually recieve credits for when they detrack enemy vehicle and the enemy vehicle gets then damaged by others

    wat?

    - tanks flipping on their back will eventually implemented

    finally.. it's quite funny to see tanks acting like cats


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    1. have you seen the video where they actually managed to flip a tank on the test?

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    2. Funny, the first time you see it happen. Funny, the first time it happens to you. Not funny after that. This will get very tedious quickly and not improve gameplay.
      DerpA

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    3. Yeah.. maybe it will not be funny later, but still.. it will be the same thing as the stuck tanks, suicides by jumping etc..

      But it will be rather funny to find a flipped tank from time to time on some unusual place.. :3

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  9. "- it's confirmed that newly unlocked tanks have limited MM... unless there is a very low number of players (for example in very early morning), in which case this rule is suspended."

    Just noticed this first and wondered the following.
    Does this mean 'limited tier spread' for the first X games or otherwise limited to 'favorable teams' for the first X games?

    "- 76mm penetration on 59-16 is "historical", the 76mm gun is more or less analogical to the Soviet D-56T"

    Historical ok, but then I'm wondering why they included the 59-16 as a tier 6 with more or less tier ~5 performance guns?
    It would be like giving the 34-85 the S-51 as a top gun.
    Ps I'm not a 59-16 driver, I'm holding back from it because of this.

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    1. AFAIK you should only see 0/1+ matches during first 10 matches in new tanks. But I'm not sure whenever It works.

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  10. - SerB on why premium tanks must be worse than regular ones: "We don't sell pwnage for money.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zUrVlLCmA

    Yup, true, you don't sell pwnage, you sell ubermegawtfepic pwnage.

    Now, i dare you i double dare you motherfucker, do that same shit with JgpzIV and call premium tanks worse than regular ones.

    SerB just went full retarded, but on the other hand he's retarded all the time, but this time he went full in.

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    1. How about you sign with your nickname, so we can judge you too.. Plus yeah nice example video, hah, yeah right. That TD sucks that was the only situation it is hardly usable, in most open maps it is dead meat.
      Plus taking the fact the mostly rookie players buy premium tanks, they haven't even reached a bloody T5 tank themselves, show me a video of 500 eff guy getting at least 2k damage.

      Showing a video of the elitist Quickybaby is a bad example!
      /Lito

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    2. xCaptainObviousxMay 7, 2013, 3:40:00 PM

      And that video doesn't prove anything.

      QB is a great player who I'm certian is able to carry any team to victory in an M3 lee, he uses the tank's streighs and tries to compensate for the weaknesses.

      The SU-100Y have a good gun and good acceleration/turn rate but it have worse armor than most tier 4 tanks but the size and camo of a Maus, good luck hiding it on open maps. It also lacks anything that resemble gun depression (-5 degrees), which was shown near the end of the video you provided.

      I'm pretty sure you can deal 2500 dmg and get 7 kills in a jagdpanzer 4 on himmelsdorf, you just need to face a similarly crappy team (notice the XVM mod, almost everyone is dark red while QB is purple (if you don't know, that's the highest normal skill rank, beside the... unused grey which indicate over 10'000 efficiency))

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    3. Must be really painful to live with such a damaged brain...

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    4. xCaptainObviousxMay 7, 2013, 3:46:00 PM

      I forgot: WG DOES sell pwnage, I can also post videos of prem tank pwnage (not going to bother with the 9 kills, 2500 xp Type 59 game... it was ADMITTED to be too good)

      Look how OP the T14 is
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivYSDg_QWyw&feature=youtu.be

      And the Valentine LL
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtK8Ld_XxrM&feature=youtu.be

      And they even give pwnage for free, as in the T49
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMdGqLLI9Ms&feature=youtu.be

      See, I can play that game too.

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    5. T6 tank with 196 pen and 440 damage...sure pls tell me more about balance...you are the same shitfags that are defending KV1s OPness by whining how it has long reload and aim time...i'm pretty sure i am experienced enough that i can tell which tank is blatantly OP and which one is UP...i know QB is a good player but the video was mainly provided to show how he is spending most of his time laughing at the tank itself and having a great time than actually concentrating on the game, which you couldn't do with JgpzIV and do the same thing...and even with ALL that JgpzIV should apparently be better tank since it is regular tank and not premium...i myself own Type 59 and it's best T8 medium by far and it's premium tank...so pls shut the fuck up and be objective for once in your life...P.S. read the top comment in QB video where he as a elite player clearly addmits that both "boxtank" and KV1s are OP, or you could just listen to his commentary in video where he and mr. jingles compare that gun to an IS-7s S-70 gun which is ridiculous to even compare the gun of a T6 and a T10 tank...

      Medjed

      Creator of the first post...just to clarify that white knight who cried why i am commenting as anonymus

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    6. Don't know what serb is talking about.

      All low tier premium tanks are at least slightly OP (except maybe the Valantine LL).

      Its quicker to create a list of higher tier premium tanks that are not at least as good as same tier regular tanks: FCM50, Dickermax, Pz4 Smallturm, Matilda BP (& AT15A maybe). Thats 4 (or 5) out of 24.
      JW

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    7. Medjed, no, just stop.
      Of course you would praise all the strengths of the SU-100Y without actually acknowledging any of its faults what so ever. Its not an OP tank, its a clumsy POS that if you get hit by it, it was your own damn fault.
      The Jagdpanzer IV is ironically the single best tank in the game for countering the SU-100Y.
      The SU-100Y is huge, has no armor, and an abysmal view range, and its accuracy is underwhelming.
      The Jagdpanzer IV has one of the best camo profiles in the game, is very small and is very hard to hit with meh-accuracy guns, and an obscenely high DPM for a tier 6.

      Combine the two together and the SU-100Y gets obliterated and the JPIV doesn't even get touched. Urban environments is literally the only situation where the SU-100Y can perform very well.

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    8. SU-100Y is
      Fast
      Agile
      High Alpha

      Big?
      Low armor?

      Did you not know that armor has no use in WoT these days... not unless you have 300+ shell proof armor it is worth thinking of. Big... Never thought it disadvantage on TD, because they already lack turret so they always have to expose themselves for shot... JPZ E-100 anyone?

      That beast has bigger chance to 1-2 shot anything it opposes bar T7 tanks than KV-1S which is just tad worse in alpha, but has lower DPM for sustained fire... SU-100Y eats almost everything...

      Also SU-122 44 is not balance at all, DPM is freaking good and armor is better than any T7 TD... and do not forget good camo value with very good mobility...

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    9. Ok, ok...maybe not OP but definitely better than some regular T6s, which was the whole point of SerB's statement(none premium tank should be better than it's regular counterpart) That's why i quoted only first sentence.

      Medjed

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    10. The SU-122-44 is only really OP in tier 5-7 matches. Once tier 8's and 9's begin to show up its potency drops like a brick to the point where the Ac Mle 1946, Jagdpanther and T25 are all far more useful in those situations.

      Again you're ignoring the weaknesses of the SU-100Y [well, actually I don't know if you're the same poster]. Yes, low armor is a disadvantage when everything in tier 5 and many tanks in tier 4 can easily pen you at any distance... and for that matter can see and hit you at any distance too

      Big is a SERIOUS problem given that it has possibly the worst camo profile in the game, worse than the Maus. Combined with its terrible view range the SU-100Y is the most likely tank in the game to get obliterated before it even sees the enemy.

      The Russian premium TD's are definitely better than some none premium tanks in their tiers, I'd definitely take an SU-100Y over an ARL V39 [well, in most situations anyway] and I'd definitely take the SU-122-44 over the SU-152 or T25/2. That doesn't inherently make them OP though.

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    11. Edit: With that said, I actually agree with you on that last point. This has more to do with some non-premiums being terrible though, than it does with the premiums being too powerful.

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    12. I can't see SU-122 44 being balanced in any way... In comparison it has best armor, close to top mobility. Gun is what it is... but for me even SU-152 wasn't such a bad grind ( 72% win, 122mm just has monster DPM ) even with subpar 175 penetration in comparison. It turns like shit but still it was reasonable grind... SU-122 44 gets mobility upgrade and armor upgrade on same package merely losing some DPM on the way. How is that balanced?

      SU-100Y is just tad worse in mobility. Being big as house, but it still packs sucker punch which is beyond scope. It should be on par with SU-152 mobility to be on par with being premium on below tier + premium... It was supposed to have bad turning speed to compensate... but it didn't.

      Those two are just not balanced, if they where T8 with same sort of advantages I would use them... Because they rock anything they encounter, sure you can't engage high tier tanks as easily, but one must remember it shouldn't be easy...

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  11. SS does the "improved armor mechanics in 0.8.6 " are present/tested on Supertest yet? If yes what are the changes?

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  12. wow... WoT is actually going in the right way this time!

    Me gusta this flipping tanks thing, its a step further realism, witch is good.

    Also, tanks achieving higher speeds while going downhill is also good.


    Henriques(EU)

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  13. I could imagine that the arty changes will be somewhat different from what many people expect.
    Today arties play like some kind of long range sniper with random accuracy. However, the nerfs that were leaked don't tell anything about the splash damage so far. I suspect that the new features of:
    "tracked tanks generate credits when consecutively damaged"
    and
    "splash damage is recieved when hiding behind a wrecked tank"

    -lead to arties new role as splash damage dealer. Would also fit with the "nuclear" comment... So, no longer high alpha dmg hits on single targets but reasonable splash damage and module damage distributed over a much larger area(even on low tiers).
    The new advantage of highly armored vehicles like Maus etc. would then be a significant reduction of arty splash damage (even more than it is now and especially when combined with spall liner). Just my 2 cents...

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    1. Yes if an SPG is bumped up a tier some things get nerfed - aiming speed, loading speed etc - but others, like damage and splash, get buffed to be comparable with the tank it displaces. There may be a slight overall nerf if the top tiers are not any more powerful at T10 as they were at T8. WG are not going to fuck with the balance too much.

      SerB is having a jolly old time trolling both end of the "ARTY PROBLEM" spectrum.

      Herman etc.

      If they are going to flip tanks in the future it will need to be wshit loadsoads of HE and what is going to deliver that?

      There is a factory in the Urals stamping out Bombardier medals by the truckload

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  14. -theoretically it's possible that on one map, there could be more variants of the same gamemode (SS: as in for example assault with the base on various spots), but the devs will most likely do no such thing, since the people are confused even now as it is

    Sad but true.

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  15. - in very far future, it's possible there will be researchable tank hulls as modules
    so in 1-2 years more...

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  16. - in 0.8.6, arty experience will be bound to tier, eg. if you have 200k experience on T7 vehicle, it won't be transferred with the vehicle, it will stay on T7 regardless of whether the former T7 vehicle gets transferred to another tier or not

    Loool... this is unbelievable. This will mean just a jump on players $$$$. So freaking cheap.

    I hope that new arty mechanics will be nerf to the ground so noone will play it anyway...

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  17. Any info about upcoming premium tanks?

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  18. Lot of info, ty SS

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  19. Dear Frank, could you please stop using that horrible Czenglish word "optimalisation"?

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    1. But... it's one of my greatest archievements! :)

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  20. Okay, now we know SPGs will be compeletey extinct from the game when 0.8.6 online.
    Why don't WG just fking delete them all if they realy don't want anyone playing them anymore?

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    1. I sense a buthurt ;-) Death to all scumbag players!

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    2. Why,

      Simply becouse we would scream a lot.
      If they nerf them piece by piece into oblivion we will stop playing them.
      Arty cap will not be neded more.

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  21. The French have an autoloader TD, the US should have one too in the form of the T58 - it's the perfect excuse to get rid of the fake T110E4, since what we have as the T110E3 is the real E4 proposed design in the first place.

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  22. - there will probably be no American TD's with autoloaders (SerB: "I can't remember any")
    corrected:SerB: "I can`t remember any,but we will make one out of thin air,if it is important,and we decide what is important"
    - the tank mobility calculation won't be published, it's "very complicated"
    Bring it on,we can cope with your "nuclear physics particle theory" ,you think of your mechanics as of something only CERN lead scientist can understand
    - theoretically it's possible that on one map, there could be more variants of the same gamemode (SS: as in for example assault with the base on various spots), but the devs will most likely do no such thing, since the people are confused even now as it is
    damn lazy devs,see answer above
    - the moving Panther in the tutorial was done as an "active element". According to SerB, it's principially possible to make maps with such things as moving trains and cars, but this won't be done for now in WoT.
    Fail,you allready have done it-Me109 flying around in Airfield map

    Steiner011

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