Ussr 122mm derp got also nerfed from 160 to 140.also: check the KV2
...but no RoF nerf, so they'll still be rolling around handily 1-2 -shotting a third of the enemy team in tier 5 battles at a decent clip. And 102 penetration is still capable of getting through the strongest armor of everything at tier, even without normalization...Welp, it's progress, and I've never been one to endlessly complain about moves in the right direction. We'll see how much this helps even the mid-tier fights back out.
Nah, 76mm gun from covenanter has 100mm of penetration HEAT, and it's nothing special.
BOO!How could they take away the seal-clubber's wet dream tank?
Not so bad, HE rounds can still one shot many tanks.
not with VK28.01 with upto tier X battle :/
the only issue is that its going to be worse hitting the up tier tanks... and since its the same gun is on the t6-7 vk's AND the vk28 (and awfulpanther, but that also has konish so meh there)i hope at the minimum the vk28 gets something to compensate having to fight all those t8-10 tanks is going to go from so-so gun to choice of bad guns.
Yup. It has a compensation. A depression nerf and twice as expensive HE ammo.
faith in wargaming restored
It doesn't affect me I only carry 8 HEAT on my Sherman to shoot the sides of kv-1s when I run against them..
I need official info for my VK 28.01!Without 10.5cm, this tank is a joke for a scout tank. Using HEAT really save my ass many times by blowing tier 7-8 heavy in CQCoh well, I still use HE for "sniping" lol.....
Finally! These guns were ridiculously OP and everyone knows it. This is one of the reasons that clearly show Wargaming was not thinking straight when they made the choice to make premium ammo available for credits.They completely destroyed the tier 4-7 matches with this, the supposedly most important tier range for this game.
Ps: Can you also post the info for the VK28.01? Since that is a scout tank it needs the 10.5 to function properly...
I would have rather they nerf the ROF or DMG then make the Sherman HEAT round almost useless.
Better to nerf HEAT than make every player in the match against the Sherman useless. Seriously.
What If I tell you, you can penetrate tier 5 tanks with it after the nerf without any problems, so the sealclubbing will remain the same? Personally I never used HEAT in tier 5 and 6 matches, only in tier 7 with my Pz.IV derp. But now it's time to sell my VK 28.01 and S-51. They will be very bad after the nerf. On the other hand I will have enough money then to buy another tier 10 tank. Yay
Do you know if the nerf will be only for those two tanks, or if other ones may be nerfed along with them? Thinking about the derptzer...
The heat nerf is unfortunately justified historically.105mm german HEAT had 100mm pen due to the early nature of the round.VK2801 and AFK Panther should use the 10H64 as high tier derp.
FUCK YES. Sure took them some time though.
Great, that at least helps a bit!
It was fucking high time to do this nerf. Raping with HEATzer was just silly, similiar to sherman and pzIV.Now, those 3 rapemachines will be much better balanced.
Dear A. Whiner-nonymous,Calling something that is as agile as a circus dancer and absorbs two or three simultaneous hits on it's way in to blow your whiny butt to the grave a rape-machine is...well.. just HA - llarious ..... Penetration is penetration at less than 50 meters ...... most likely twice before you get off your second shot.My best regards,Drpy8z
Its just like Arty - one shot from miles away - pin point accuary - 2000 ++ dmg one shot tanks.They nerf heat for Tier 5 then the need to fix the arty problem as well.
LOL Wargamingand what is with the troll gun from the KV-1 and SU-85?typically russian, only the german nerf and nothing on the fu ...... russian tanks.
According to gamemodels3d.122 mm U-11:price 7g -> 10gpenetration 161mm -> 140mmBefore shouting "Russian BIAS!", look it up first.
OPness of KV-1 is finally restored. There can be only one true T5 owning tank. Even if they nerf the howitzer, it will still rape everything like in the good ol' days.
Are there any data on gamemodels3d about: 122 mm M-30SNew price?New penetration?
Great. Now I wait for nerf HEAT shells on other tanks, which are OP with this ammo (tier IX/X meds, IS-2, T69 etc.).
why not just nerf the dmg abit? wats the point in nerfing pentration...
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