AMX Obusier automoteur de 105
BatChatillon155 (1955)
GW 10.5 CM Mk.IV(e) - yes, that's a 105mm howitzer built into the British Mk.IV light tank, captured in some numbers after the battle of Dunkerque from the expeditionary force.
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Pz.Sfl.IVb - the Heushrecke, or at least one of its prototypes
GW 21cm
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SU-122A
SU-14-1
M44
M53/55
OH MY GOD HEUSHRECKE!!!11!
ReplyDeleteLet it be turreted like the Su-26 not the GW Panther
DeleteIRL Heushrecke was turretted with a fully traverseable turret, so yes, it most likely will.
DeleteWe both know that 'IRL' has no meaning for WG.
DeleteWell, yes... :) Still, I think it will have a 360 degree turret, would be too obvious not to make it.
DeletePls do me a favor.
DeleteWord it Heuschrecke.
Thats Grasshopper in German.
"Das Geschütz hatte ein Richtfeld von jeweils 35° nach beiden Seiten und 40° nach oben." http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_IV#Prototypen_auf_Panzer-IV-Fahrgestell
DeleteWhich means the gun could travers 360 degree... "just" 35 degree to both sides.
Your Staufen.
Nope.
DeleteHeuschrecke is the german word for Locust.
Grasshüpfer is the german word for Grasshopper. ;)
I had a typo again :).... I meant cant traverse 360 degree. Just 35 to both sides.
DeleteP.S. It isnt the Heuschreck 10....
Heuschrecke 10, 8 rollers:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Heuschrecke.Aberdeen.000865gx.jpg
GW IVb, 6 rollers:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PzH_GW_IVb.svg
Your Staufen.
http://dict.leo.org/#/search=heuschrecke&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on
DeleteBoth words can be used.
Doesnt change the fact that Heushrecke is wrong spelled,
which was my point.
wasserman is correct, that's the Sd.Kfz.165/1 or GW IVb, a prototype for the Heuschreke project. It had 6 road wheels and an open-topped turret that couldn't be removed(see the picture). IIRC it also had a limited traverse turret but I can't remember the source for that.
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any new about their tiers?
ReplyDeleteNope sorry. It's semi-confirmed that GW 21cm will be T9, the Heuschrecke is tier 5-6 material and the American tiers were also confirmed to be (I think) 7 and 9, the Batchat will be T9, but more is not known.
DeleteWe spoke about this the other day- Surely the Brit line must accompany the higher tier SPG release. Your the man most in the loop but what a fail if Brit SPG are 8.7 or later..
DeleteTitanLegion
I very much doubt the British arty will come in 8.7 - I mean, that never happened, two arty patches in a row.
DeleteWell how much content do we know about 8.7, 8.8 & beyond, can the SPG line be fitted in with what else? Whole nations have come out with previous releases so when will the Brit SPG line happen?
DeleteAlso in general what's lined up for future patch releases content wise?
Titanlegion
Not much. We know that post 8.6, German TD's are scheduled to make an appearance (as promised) and in December/January, the Japanese tree could be implemented, but other than that - nada. What we know is that if WG keeps this 1-patch-per-2-months policy, 8.6 might come in June (I assume it will have a long test period due to the massive MM change), 8.7 in August, 8.8 in October and 8.9 in December.
DeleteWe know the French and Soviet tanks won't be coming this year, but we also know Japanese tanks might, which gives us 2 patches to look forward to. I assume one of them will contain German TD's and the other will contain the Havok.
so the captured arty will be premium for german?
ReplyDeleteEDIT: lol captcha "artyher 208"
Possible, but unknown. It's a rather exotic design.
DeleteThat 53/55.. damn
ReplyDeleteand even Germans got some nice pieces!
ummm between GW 10.5 CM Mk.IV or Pz.Sfl.IVb - Heushrecke, which one will become Premium...
ReplyDeleteMost likely the Mk.IV - Heushrecke was tier 5 material
DeleteTrue, but the MKIV sounds more like premium material due to the fact that it's semi British.
DeletePerhaps the Heuschrecke will be 6 and the GW-Panther will be moved up to 7
I think it'll surely be tier 5 and Hummel, GwPanther and GwTiger pumped up with 1 tier.
DeleteYeah, exactly what i thought.
DeleteBut i hope the GW Panther stays where it is.
I dont hope so - if GW Panther stay at Tier 6 he will be nerfed extrem
DeleteIt's important to note which tiers these new vehicles will be, especially if you're playing on the NA cluster right now. If the Hummel and GwPanther are both bumped up a tier, there is a potential for credits to be made. Both of them are currently half off with the tech tree focus this week.
DeletePoint taken.
DeleteThen lets hope he will go to tier 7. xD
I wonder if the GW21 would also have the 30.5cm GrW L/18, because it, and the 17cm K18 and 21cm Mrs 18 had the same mount.
ReplyDeleteIf So then the GWE would also have 30.5?
One can dream.
Doubtful, that would be a significant buff. It was announced that the tier 10 arties will not be more powerful than current tier 8 ones.
DeleteTo be fair i don't like having the same 21cm guns on 3 arties. Or maybe they're going to nerf GWtiger with 17cm. OMG i hated 17cm, that gun sucked hard. Also why put high tier arties in German tree without historical references when they could add 2 tier4-5 arty?
ReplyDeleteThe GW Elefant might recieve the 21cm GrW69. "Yo dawg, we herd you liked Elefants, so we put an Elefant in your Elefant" :)
DeleteWith a little buff the 17cm could be a good tier 8 top gun.
Delete-ChielScape
The only time I got 5 kills in GW Tiger was with the 17cm gun :P Dat Reload
DeleteAnyway, I'm with you, 3 arties having the same gun is a bad thing, so they probably will nerf the one placed at tier 8.
Henriques (EU)
so, the fake german is here for good...
ReplyDelete3 new german artys i will one of them be a prem arty or will another arty be removed?
ReplyDeletemaybe 2 at one tier like su-14 and s-51 at the moment?
Deleteor Sturmpanzer II and Wespe at Tier 3 in German Techtree - maybe GW 10.5 CM Mk.IV replace Wespe and Wespe went with al little buff to Tier 4 ? all is possible, we will see !
DeleteHi,
ReplyDeletea minor nitpick, the Name: Pz.Sfl.IVb is wrong or lets say "wrongish"....
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuschrecke_%28Selbstfahrlafette%29
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_IV#Prototypen_auf_Panzer-IV-Fahrgestell
As the german wiki rightful mention:
-GW IVb or Geschützwagen IVb
-Sd.Kfz. 165/1
-Heuschreck 10
-or fully: Selbstfahrlafette mit der 10,5-cm-leichten Feldhaubitze 18 auf dem Fahrgestell des Panzerkampfwagen IV
Which means in short form: Sfl. 10,5 leFH 18 auf dem Fahrgestell PzKpfw IV or even shorter: Sfl. leFH 18/1 (Sf) auf GW IVb (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_IV#Prototypen_auf_Panzer-IV-Fahrgestell)
Calling it a "Sfl" alone, or "Sfl VIb", or "PzSfl VIb" makes no sense in german, as it doesnt give the information which gun is in use (for example see here: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/228576-suggestion-for-085-the-new-german-tech-tree/page__st__20__pid__4474145#entry4474145). It can this way not work. You will always find Selbstfahrlafette with the gun, so that we as read know which vehicle/gun is meant; the be more precisely which Sfl is meant.
For other examples see here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Sonderkraftfahrzeuge_der_Wehrmacht
Just my usual rant about WG :)
Your
Staufen.
Hmm...got a "bias" issue.
DeleteI see the m53/55.And I see it's grey.I wonder why it's not brown as all other american tanks?
(Since Leopard 1 didn't got it's original colour)
Edit:Above it's not a reply to the post, I just tryed to post, on the thread, another ideea, from my mobile...
DeleteThe Mk.IV(e) is wrong too apparently, in real life it was called Mk.VI and built od Vickers Mk.VI LT chassis
DeleteArrg had a typo..... It can be the Heuschreck 10... the Heuschrecke 10 had 8 rollers.... the GW IVb sixs rollers....
DeleteSo the right list would be:
-GW IVb or Geschützwagen IVb
-Sd.Kfz. 165/1 too, both had the same nummber.
-or fully: Selbstfahrlafette mit der 10,5-cm-leichten Feldhaubitze 18 auf dem Fahrgestell des Panzerkampfwagen IV
Which means in short form: Sfl. 10,5 leFH 18 auf dem Fahrgestell PzKpfw IV or even shorter: Sfl. leFH 18/1 (Sf) auf GW IVb (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_IV#Prototypen_auf_Panzer-IV-Fahrgestell)
Sorry about that.... so no heuschrecke
Your Staufen.
Arrg typo again.. I meant it cant be a heuschrecke 10... 6 rollers.
DeleteThe Heuschrecke has a different turret as well
DeleteSU-122A?
ReplyDeleteAnother tank based on the T-70 chassie, I know what I'm going for.
Why is the M53/55 gray?
ReplyDeleteno skin yet ^^
DeleteI may be wrong but isn't the SU-122A pictured on some new map? I really don't recognize this one.
ReplyDeleteY.
Looks like a new map.
DeleteMaybe it's the reworked Swamp
DeleteThats Ensk
DeleteOne can always dream of a bigger gun on the gwtype :) It's such a behemoth anyway so why not have a matching gun.
ReplyDelete-p0ntsa
Mostly because it's a fantasy tank :)
DeleteOf course, E-100 could have been an excellent platform for a Grille 30/42.
Failing that, I'd settle for the R2: http://s9.photobucket.com/user/zarax/media/r2.png.html
Is the SU-122A a Protoype or something? I didnt find anything on the Internet about this tank :/
ReplyDeleteIt seems that this sgp doesn´t based on the su-122.
look at the picture. its based on the Su-76/85B chassis and has a 122mm cannon.
DeleteProposal for modified SU-76M chassis (same as SU-85B) with 122mm M-30 model 1938 howitzer.
DeleteOne question...i have GwTiger and i'm grinding typeE now. I have arround 120.000 exp grinded but i am still far away from the end.
ReplyDeleteWhat will happen with my xp ? Or...what will happen if i unlock typeE but i don'n buy it ?
I believe this is the situation with many players like me...so i am worried a little.
Any info on this ?
Thanks in advance ;)
Exp on the GW Tiger will stay on the GW Tiger, if you unlock the GW-E it will stay unlocked.
DeleteIf you do not unlock the GW-E and they add a tank between the two then you will not have the new tank unlocked.
bullshit ? If you unlock gw-e (not buy it, but have entire line done), you will have gw-e researched on top of tree, and everything else added on the way, it was already confirmed in past, so instead of spreading crap based on your "thinking", go read some facts.
DeleteAnd additional proof for this : It was also stated in past by devs already, that exp required to finish new arty line, will be roughly the same as old tree.
I would start grinding. Fast.
DeleteI've an IS-4 in my garage, but i dont have the ST-I researched.
Deletethen there is one more situation....i don't research it or buy it...bu i grind...let's say 200.000 exp.
DeleteWhat will happen with this exp ?
The exp stays on the tiger.
DeleteIf you do that, pray the God to make your GwTiger t9 so you'd use all those 200k exp.
(When we'll have the 8.6, the exp required to research a bigger tier arty will be less.For example, now, from a tier 5 to a tier 6 you need around 100k exp.After the patch you'll need mas 50k.)
@Alex as i said earlier, same amount of exp for entire tree line to finish, only bigger spread through all tiers.
Delete@G_ziz Next time think twice, or use brain at all before posting something... Reason why is-4 situation and arties situation shouldnt be compared and given as example:
IS-4 was moved out of his "mother" line in tree, in order to make him t10 and build second hvy line, it would be extra retarded to give ppl entire line researched only because they have t10, dont you think ? Thats why ST-1 stayed unresearched.
With arties situation is different, its just stretching of line, as i said earlier, it will be same amount of exp, like its now... you have top tier researched now, you will have top tier researched after patch, because you used for it roughly same amount of exp, that someone new will need to grind entire new tree from scratch.
So if I understand properly, the GW-Elefant (aka the WG big fake joke) would be Tier 9 ?
ReplyDeleteWhat is the logical in this case as the GW-Elefant is based on the Porsche hull (so Tiger (P) Tier 7 or Ferdinand Tier 8) when the GW-Tiger is based on the Tiger II (Tier 8) ?
And your logical is better?
DeleteA tier 7(tiger p) with a 210mm and a tier 8 with 170mm(tiger 2)?
The arty tiers are selected for their guns, not hulls/armour.
Bigger gun, bigger tier.The only exception is the russian 261.But it's the only one from 30 arties in-game.
The GW-Tiger also has a 210mm as top gun.
DeleteI just mean that there was always a kind of logics between the superstructure used as base for the SPG and its tier. In the case of the GW-Elefant, we have an older superstructure (developed on the Tiger (P)) that would have a higher tier than a more recent one (Tiger II).
But yes, i agree, the size of the gun could be another logical way, even if we could have some changes in the guns of the different tiers.
I expect all current t7, future t8, arties will be nerfed to make room between them and the current t8, future t10. Right now there is not so much room stat-wise to put a whole new tier inbetween.
ReplyDeleteThe question is then: will the nerf really chance the feel of the current t7 arties? On the other hand, the MM will probably be softer for them than now, and it is nice that the horrendous t7->t8 grind will get a middle point.
I hope they will make sure the total amount of xp earned/spent since t1 will stay the same.
Looks like new arties with rotating turrets.
ReplyDeleteso hate arties......
ReplyDeleteSeveral other proposals were made to modify or create new models of the K5 which never saw production. In particular, there were plans for a model which could leave the railway by use of specially modified Tiger II tank chassis which would support the mounting box in much the same manner as the railway weapon's two bogies. This project was ended by the defeat of Germany. -wikipedia-
ReplyDeleteWhy WG not making this instead?
We already have Gw Tiger, based on tiger II chassis
Deleteyes GW T with 210 mm, but im talking to different Guns, K5 or 280 mm..
Delete¿French tree:
ReplyDelete6 AMX Obusier automoteur de 105
7 lorr 150
8 lorr 150 51
9 batman 155
10 patton 155?
Batman 155 -> Tier 10, Bat-Patton tier 9 (no autoloader)
DeleteWe still wait the proofs that the Bat-Patton 155 really existed (at least in blueprints), but it is supposed to be a prototype leading to the BatChat 155.
DeleteThe BatChat 155 is described to have an undercarriage similar to the Patton (see here: http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=36 ) but Frank Davis explained in a previous message that he has no source aware of such prototype or blueprint (however it doesn't mean that there is no blueprint or that it was not considered, we have several example of French-American hybrid tanks as the AMX 13 Chaffee or the Chaffee with AMX turret !)
That little German one on the Vickers light tank chassis is so cute. I may have to pick up the Heushrecke as well
ReplyDelete-ApplesauceBandit
I'm confused. The GW 21cm is going to be T9? What happens to the GWTiger? You can't tell me that shit is going to be T8 (with stock? gun)?
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised that the Germans didn't get the sIG-33 or the Brummbaer. That was my guess.
ReplyDeleteAnd by "the sIG-33" I mean one of the many SPG's that used that gun.
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