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Apr 17, 2013

17.4.2013

- apparently Japanese tanks will come before the second Soviet medium branch
- special "duel" mode won't be implemented on test servers
- there won't be a 3rd test of 0.8.5
- the Chinese 59-16 light tank can't mount a stabilizer "for several (a complex of) reasons"
- there won't be any special gameplay stabilizer effect specifically for sniper mode
- a high caliber gun shot demasks a tank much more than a small gun
- cross-nation camouflages are not planned (SS: German camo for US tank etc.)
-  there won't be a special Mac OS WoT port, but WG is working on a "multi-platform client" (without any details)
- according to SerB, there will be less arties in top tier battles with the introduction of tier 10 arties
- there is currently no plan for American tier 10 medium tank with an autoloader
- the amount of ingame reports is limited because of the spam
- apparently no extra reward for killing all the tanks in the game archievement are planned
- apparently, the Highway map won't be rebalanced
- Batchat155-55 will be tier 9, won't have an autoloader
- the multiturret mechanism will be implemented eventually, has nothing to do with BigWorld
- Wargaming implementation of XVM mod will happen, but it doesn't have high priority
- arty hull can be moved in artymode only by mouse, but TD's intentionally don't have this, as the controls would be uncomfortable
- if I understand this correctly: when you fall onto an enemy tank and get destroyed by the damage, your hull will still keep on destroying the enemy tank. This is not a bug.
- the armor quality coefficient (SS: some tanks had bonus to armor strength for "quality armor" and vice versa) was cancelled, because some tanks had combined type of armor and because for example if King Tiger will get a "nerf" for defectively manufactured armor, the devs would have to do that with all the tanks and that's crap.
- special tier 10 tanks for other nations (apart from Failowe, Object 907 and M60) are not planned for now
- T24 tank destroyer was removed from the game for now
- theoretically, Sturmpanzer Bär could make it into the game
- SU-152 "Taran" won't be implemented into the game
- alternative Soviet TD branch consisting with SU-100P and SU-152P? "No comment"
- post mortem arty mode where you'd see where your allied arty is aiming is not planned for now
- alternative Soviet medium branch has problems with top tier tanks
- the credits gained by penetrating with the shell are not always bigger than the cost of the shell itself (for example when a Jagdpanzer E-100 oneshots a MS-1, it will lose credits)
- apparently, the premium account WILL be buffed somehow ("Storm was just tired")
- arty hardcap will be removed when the arties get balanced
- tier 7-8 arty repair costs will most likely be rebalanced
- SerB states that the "Klein Tiger" is some sort of fake tank (SS: never heard of it)

- according to SerB, the Löwe doesn't have a bigger chance to catch on fire

65 comments:

  1. Nice to hear again of the japanese branch. ^^
    I'm interested in the WG-XVM thing and the premium acc "buff". let's see what it will bring ;)

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  2. "- arty hardcap will be removed when the arties get balanced"

    ROFL!

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    1. best message ever!!! more arties means more fun for everyone!!!

      gief us moar arties and kill the hardcap once and for all

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  3. Wargaming implementation of XVM mod will happen

    - BOOOm, thats like a nuclear bomb. personally i hope some bobs will realize they suck and try to improve their gameplay whren tehre is an ingame rating. Lets see...

    The Löwe thing. I cant compare, just bought the Löwe with recent discount. moneymaking feels like a Tiger with PA and 50-80% income boost (like we had in some specials recently). so its fine for me, i like its perfomance also...
    But i can understand, some people feel ripped off if they bought it in those days it was more profitable.
    This would be a scandal bigger than anything before IMHO.
    for the sake of those players, please keep investigating SS and proof that!

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    1. "Wargaming implementation of XVM mod will happen
      - BOOOm, thats like a nuclear bomb. personally i hope some bobs will realize they suck and try to improve their gameplay whren tehre is an ingame rating. Lets see..."

      Wooo, so did you fucking know that XVM stands for "eXtended Visualisation Mod" and the player statistics is just one single function of it while it has several other?
      Just go and read for once http://www.modxvm.com/en/

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    2. XVM is an extension of the OvTM, that WG already has implemented in the game

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    3. some bob feels addressed here?

      I do "fucking" know (why so unfriendly?) that XVM is mostly known for its efficiency rating respectively its visualisation to the players panel.
      By implementing XVM they surely dont refer to an DMg counter or an improved base capture bar.

      so troll yourself...

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    4. Well the way you wrote it, it really didn't seem that you would know that. A lot of people seem not to know.
      If you would know, I would assume you would understand that they must be thinking of other features, as WG has already said that they will not have their own "efficiency rating" as theirs is win ratio.
      Sorry for being a bit unfriendly, its just that i am annoyed by people that go on talking without knowing what they are really talking about.

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    5. Well thats exactly why im so suprised about this news. iirc a long time ago there was an answer like "were thinking about some kind of ingame rating". but the recent answers were the opposite or winrate focused. Would be a big change of mind if implementing XVM really means an ingame rating.

      and yes, i think it would be great. a (bad) casual player (which most of players are) doesnt know about ER or Wn6/7. so they actually dont know what is generally considered a good battle performance.

      even if it will be a less complex rating (like a scale 1-10) people always want to improve such numbers shown to all.

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    6. But they didnt say that they will integrate XVM statistics, just XVM.

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    7. outside the statistics, everything else that XVM integrates was previously done by other modders

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    8. like? editable OTM, hitlog etc?

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  4. - if I understand this correctly: when you fall onto an enemy tank and get destroyed by the damage, your hull will still keep on destroying the enemy tank. This is not a bug.

    Yes, when my platoon mate (AMX 13 90) being stationary was T-boned by a T-54 doing max speed, the T-54 wedged itself under the AMX, killing it, and he kept pushing the AMX wreck in a "pwnt u noob" manner while still being under it partially, for like 20 meters, that way he did more than 600 dmg to himself before he realized.
    I also experimented with a friend in a training room and parked a Pz38nA on top of his KV-5 (intentional disproportion), kept stationary on his hull (like I was just parked on the ground) and we both were constantly receiving damage. After Pz was destroyed, KV kept receiving damage. Also, I had to work hard to stay on top of him like that because the physics engine was trying hard to push me down to either side.

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    1. Also happened to me. But unfortunately, you dont get the kill, if your wreck destroys the tank. :-(

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  5. Are there any Japanese tank experts on this forum?
    Other than new tank models to look at, what are the overall strengths of their tanks? Germans have armor and accuracy, Soviets have high alpha damage and stealth, French have auto-loaders, etc... What about the Japanese?

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    1. More rivet-studded than a Black Metal concert, AFAIK; apparently the Navy stole all the welding torches and refused to share or something. :/

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    2. Well not directly here, most (Okinoshima, Soukoudragon, Kankou and others) are found on US forums, in this wonderful thread:

      http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/51183-japanese-tank-tree-guns-discussion/

      To answer your questions - probably camo and soft stats, such as terrain passability, which was very good

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  6. Where can you post this questions to WG?

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  7. >what are the overall strengths of their tanks?
    its super good depression. :)

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  8. Kankou is not a expert in anything, just some guy who can use wikipedia. Please stop feeding that troll's ego.

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    1. He/she whoever that is knows a lot on a lot, especially Japanese vehicles. Maybe his/her ego is a bit bigger than it should be, but I still prefer such people to a bunch of loser WoT scrubs who get erections from other people's winrates, but are completely clueless otherwise :)

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    2. someone like Garbad? xD

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    3. Kankou does have an overinflated ego, but his/her information comes from a LOT more than just random internet sites. Go to the Japanese armor thread. 99.9% of her info from there does NOT come from Wiki.

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    4. Well, who then?

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    5. I do find the he/she thing amusing, but oh well.

      If you need anything, feel free to send me a PM.

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    6. Japanese female that knows perfect english, lives in NA and has a video game and forum obsession. Ya you and a thousand other creepy japonophiles. Why do you feel you have to lie about your sex and race(and playing on other servers where your ping would be through the roof) why can't you just be yourself.People would probably like you if you didn't spew obvious lies and protend to be somone you're not.

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    7. Well, if you want to believe that, believe that. It's not like that'll deter myself from my work or those who know me from listening to crap.

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  9. - Batchat155-55 will be tier 9, won't have an autoloader

    So.. everybody who loves 155 51, will definitely go for THAT Bat

    Common opinion now is that the lorry is far more better choice.. but with this new chata bata.. damn, he could turn that all around

    It will be possible to mount gun rammer and also, I wonder if they will make the ventilation accessible again :P

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  10. - arty hardcap will be removed when the arties get balanced.

    Let the arty party of good ol' times begin.
    It will never get balanced - not until they nerf it to hell. Like german tanks.

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    1. Or maybe add brain to german tank drivers/ary whiners

      "+ 50% increase in brain cell amount for all whiners"

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  11. - if I understand this correctly: when you fall onto an enemy tank and get destroyed by the damage, your hull will still keep on destroying the enemy tank. This is not a bug.

    I've seen this happen in ramming situations as well. Your tank is hit and destroyed but the wreck slides into the enemy tank doing damage.

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  12. tier 7 and 8 repair cost "rebalance" sooo thay make it more expensive

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  13. - T24 tank destroyer was removed from the game for now

    "This is even not in The game yet.."

    - the Chinese 59-16 light tank can't mount a stabilizer "for several (a complex of) reasons"

    Vert Stabilizer mounted only for tier 8 and above, isnt?

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    1. Vert Stab can fit on tier 7 (T29,Easy8)

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    2. m4a3e2 and m4a3e8 can both mount vert stab as well as T21 light tank all being tier 6 a "perk" to owning USA tanks.

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  14. Anyone can elaborate how making more SPGs will result in fewer of them per match?

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    1. Currently tier VI, VII and VIII artillery all go to the battles with tier X tanks at the top. This problem leads to the another, greater problem and that is.. 5 arty per team in those battles..

      By expanding branches of SPGs up to tier X, they will also recive a new MM system.. by which they will act same as other tanks [ Except some light tanks/scouts ]. So the artillery of tier VI and VII won't go to tier X battles anymore.. and you will get less vehicles of that kind in high tier battles.

      Hajvanho

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    2. ahahaha yes and instead of those VI and VII arties we will get more lethal arties. T8,9 along with the already two shot dead arties for most tanks (T92,GW Type E,etc).

      Nice thinking WG!

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    3. Um, no.
      Tier 10 arties are going to be the same, or at least no more powerful than the tier 8 arties we have now.

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    4. Well.. by my opinion, that will indeed be a solution to slightly reduce amount of SPG's in high tier battles.. but one problem could occur in lower tiers now [ V, VI, VII ], because those SPG's will now be "easily" researched and will be quite interesting to play..

      I really don't know will anything work without a need to massively nerf all SPG's in order to chase away players from them and generally reduce their number..

      Hajvanho

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  15. "- the credits gained by penetrating with the shell are not always bigger than the cost of the shell itself (for example when a Jagdpanzer E-100 oneshots a MS-1, it will lose credits)"

    Just like every shot with Centurion Mk.1 20-pounder it feels like, I feel like the game would need a new patch like the 7.2 with its "Economy overhaul"...

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  16. "- if I understand this correctly: when you fall onto an enemy tank and get destroyed by the damage, your hull will still keep on destroying the enemy tank. This is not a bug."

    There is still bug. I jumped, landed and ride 5-10m and then hited enemy destroyed tank and I died and he had kill. So it is not only when you fall.

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  17. "- arty hardcap will be removed when the arties get balanced"

    Goodbye WoT, it was nice knowing you

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  18. Since there's no post for 8.5 updates (that or I fail at looking) is there any confirmation on this change:
    "- Cost of B-2CH engine changed from 17,000 to 49,500 credits"

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    1. isn't that an engine from one of the new tanks [ T60/70/80 ] ?

      I can't find that engine in the game atm..

      Hajvanho

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    2. Could be, but it's really silly listing changes from the test server, not the last live patch :I

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    3. Tnx to the Cobra to pointing that out...

      It was the fail in translation from cyrillic to alphabet.. so it is not B-2CH but V-2SN, an engine from KV-3 :)

      Can't believe I didn't think of that.. even dough I encounter cyrillic daily xD

      Hajvanho

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    4. Cost of B-2CH engine changed from 17,000 to 34,000 credits

      lol seems they learned from the 83mm HE shell fiasco

      -Griff

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  19. Did they nerfed D. max speed? I remember this tank faster. When ı play its going with 20-30. I remember it was more than 30 on normal way.

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  20. "SerB states that the "Klein Tiger" is some sort of fake tank"

    From AchtungPanzer.com

    "Klein Tiger"In December of 1944, Henschel proposed the design for 33ton heavy Klein Tiger (Small Tiger), which was to be a lighter version of Tiger II. It was to be powered by Tiger II’s Maybach HL 230 P 30 engine producing 630hp. It was to have 80mm thick sloped front armor and 160mm thick horizontal side armor. The side armor was to be newly developed (or being developed) layered armor. Klein Tiger was to be armed with Krupp’s 100mm PWK (Panzerwurfkanone), able to penetrate 200mm of armor. Small Tiger remained only a paper project.

    I have found a lot of information on that site which is not true according to my small collection of books(no mention of the Klien Tiger in any Spielberger/Jentz/Doyle work). Just goes to show that information can't be trusted by most websites.

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    1. Achtungpanzer is known to have some German fantasy crap. It's really amazing how stuff like Jagdpanzer E-50 etc. spreads.

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    2. I blame that site for a lot of the BS that people believe about German tanks.

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  21. "- arty hull can be moved in artymode only by mouse, but TD's intentionally don't have this, as the controls would be uncomfortable"

    DAFUQ? Could you please recheck both question and answer? I don't understand, i can move arty hull without mouse.

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    1. Yes, obviously, you can do both with arty. The player was complaining that you can't do both with TD too (because the mouse hull positioning in TD snipermode would be awkward).

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    2. OK, so the word "only" doesn't fit ;) .

      Actually, i'd like quite the opposite: when i turn TD in sniper mode i still have the "hull brake" engaged and i can keyboard-turn as much as i want, but when i go back to arcade mode it's gone and i instantly mouse-turn which is !@#$ - is there any way to make it not disengaging automatically upon turning?

      Similar goes for arty, only in orbit mode any keyboard turn automatically disengages hull-brake and it's instantly visible, so it's a bit better (but i still don't want it to behave that way).

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    3. Hold RMB? :/

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    4. No, because i sill want to target within my gun arc.
      RMB is another case of non ergonomic things i don't like...

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  22. "Wargaming implementation of XVM mod will happen, but it doesn't have high priority"
    That's bad. There are already too many players who knows thanks to XVM that their team has for example 40% chance to win, and they are stuck in the "we'll loose no matter what" mindset from the beginning of the battle and they don't play to the full of their capability, which is annoying. For me XVM sometimes brings more bad than good.

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    1. Personally I am using xvm stats but I do not give a crap about the win chances but I do check personal stats - this way I choose reliable players to do a little tactic with.

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    2. I don't even need XVM to see a defeat.
      It starts when someone says SIEMA.
      After that I watch winchances and see red 30% with bad team against good team and me being the best but somehow in the shit team like always.

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  23. "arty hardcap will be removed when the arties get balanced"

    Two questions come to my mind:

    1) Why the hell did I just extend my premium subscription?
    2) When is War Thunder going to introduce tanks?

    Seriously, if the new arty tier spread is going to be of noticeable help at all, it will be temporary at most. Those people who are currently playing T6/7 arties and therefore get dropped into T10+ matches will eventually have T10 arties and will still be dropped into T10+ matches.

    So nothing will change at all. Still loads of arty-induced camping (arty only discourages camping when there is enough cover between you and the enemy to actually move forward from cover to cover). Removing arty cover in the map reworks does not help, either.

    I used to play arty in beta and found it ridiculously easy, yet boring. I could imagine how some kinds of people could get kicks out of that gameplay.

    Now, with the changed HE mechanics and reduced accuracy arty above Tier 3/4 depends way more on luck than before (I love RNG in games like this... not), yet when it hits it is pretty much just as retarded for the guy on the receiving end as before. In addition, the credit income from arty is substantially lower than in beta. I stopped wasting my time on playing arty, yet obviously many others still get kicks out of its gameplay that has hardly anything to do with the way tanks fight tanks (in WoT).

    Arty gameplay is, at its core, a different game by itself and I am wishing for some kind of rework that takes some luck out of it to make skill more rewarding than a good roll at the RNG (even though a bad-mediocre roll on a higher-tier arty is devastating even for the highest-tier tanks already) and lowers the arty's effect on the tank gameplay. Removing the hardcap (which is too high right now, anyway) will not help with this.

    /rant

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  24. -Batchat155-55 will be tier 9, won't have an autoloader

    im disappointed! just grind and buy it for to have a t10 arty..

    fu wg

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  25. Bat155 55 is a new spg, current bat155 will be tier 10.

    Still weird that newer model (1955) is tier 9 and older model tier 10 (1954).

    And it's good they remove the artycap, I like big arty fights.
    What I don't like is 10 small scouts driving 70kmh and getting no damage nor detrack from my shells whatsoever

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  26. "Klein Tiger"In December of 1944, Henschel proposed the design for 33ton heavy Klein Tiger (Small Tiger), which was to be a lighter versionof Tiger II. It was to be powered by Tiger II’s Maybach HL 230 P 30 engine producing 630hp. It was to have 80mm thick sloped front armor and 160mm thick horizontal side armor. The side armor was to be newly developed (or being developed) layered armor. Klein Tiger was to be armed with Krupp’s 100mm PWK (Panzerwurfkanone), able to penetrate 200mm of armor. Small Tiger remained only a paper project....Unofficial :)

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    1. if someone asks for source, i will give you:
      Jentz & Doyle: Königtiger 1942-1945 (1997 edition) page 144
      [if i remember good enough, but i think WG (SerB) would say: "it's not historical resource material moron! it's an instuctionbook for little kids to build a homemade Tiger2."]

      KEX

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