Thanks. This tank sounds very promising with this high pen gun, which might become the best gun of all Tier VIII Mediums.
Furthermore, I think so far that the Indienpanzer > Panther II. Let's wait how agile the Indienpanzer will be. On the other hand, it has a worse HP/ton ratio compared to the Panther II. Armour seems to be quite equal.
Erm, if you are talking about best tier 8 medium gun (and gun alone) I guess you haven't noticed Centurions top gun. Is more accurate, more penetration, aims faster, shoots a bit slower, alpha about the same.
This is Panther II gun, you are talking about. Anyway, why do you even nedd substatnial ammount of gold shells on Indien Panzer or Panther II? They have very good (much more than average) penetration on standard shells.
It looks like armour on this thing will be amazing. 90mm on that kind of slope? Yes, please! 90mm sides are nice too. I just wonder how much better armour on second turret will be (or if it will even have a second turret anyway, and if yes will it have better armour)? Nonetheless the turret is pretty rounded and with luck should bounce shots nicely.
Where armor has good slope it is not 90mm, where it is 90mm it is not well sloped. Only front rounded part of hull is 90mm, heavily sloped glacis is (IIRC) 60mm.
Is the indienpanzer's 9 cm related in any way to the 90mm DCA 45? They both share many stats (damage, penetration with AP / APCR, even their aim times).
nice gun, nice all round armor but it doesnt seem much mobile with 630hp pushing 40 tons looks like a pure sniper im wondering how much depression will have...
Probably a mix of German and American Gun Depression probably like take the worse Depression of the Germans and even it out with the best American Tank with the Best Gun Depression, possibly.
got enough xp waiting for it! glad that to long 88mm can be mounted, makes the grind towards the 9cm a bit more acceptable! Think this one is going to be fun!
It seems it will get the L/56 as a stock gun. That means you cannot mount the L/71 until you researched the tracks first. You guys better start saving up some free XP for either the tracks, or the 90mm gun.
my bet is you cant use the L71 here. The 88mm is an old gun for ww2 vehicles era only and the 90mm gun was the new standard adopted for post war vehicles.
If you check the picture the L/71 have Indienpanzer listed as being able to mount it. So currently it has the L/71 as an option.
Isn't that bad if it only needs the tracks to be decent, ~15k free exp or suspension module solves that problem now lets hope this thing have decent terrain resistance stats or else it will probably be rather slow stock and elite.
Lol, not at all, there are actually many guns that have different accuracy on different tanks: 90 mm DCA 45;75 mm Vickers HV; 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 and more
Except hp/ton ratio and view range, it seems to be better in everything in comparision to panther 2. Better armour, turnrate, gun, diesel engine with back transmission. im wauting for nerf.
Sorry for being a jerk but wasn't this picture's link posted yesterday, not today, by Anon-ST on the "VK20.01D and VK30.01D screenshots" thread? Just go check, Frank.
So far the only thing I've unlocked on E-75 is the engine, specifically with intentions to use it on E-50. :) Anyway I think, I'll go for both German meds.
Most everyone will have seen this by now, but I think they did a pretty good job of keeping this from us. Just announced new Soviet tree branch. http://worldoftanks.com/media/Soviet-Tank-Tree/
Spherical tanks? That kind? http://ptwinteco.no-ip.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/LPG-Spherical-Tank.jpg April Fools' Day today, so the whole tree may be a prank.
Oh look, a troll tree on 1st of April! That's unexpected!
TBH, I'll just skip the news for today or something...
By the way, the Soviet spherical tanks are real. They made several projects in the late 40's, it's generally a terribly retarded idea and it never led anywhere, but the projects existed.
" so the whole tree IS a prank" Not WHOLE WHOLE tree. Basic shape is unchanged. What I meant is that spherical tanks are most definitely a prank, but I'm not sure about T-60,70,80 line, and changes on tier 2-4 before KV-1. There may or may not be some truth there.
Nothing changed in the ussr tech tree except for the Spherical tanks http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/art_/ussr_full_eu.jpg http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/media/tech_trees/russian_tree_com.jpg T-60, T-70, T-80, T-19, T-24 and T-46-5 are not pranks :facepalm:
anything on the price?
ReplyDelete~2,5 mil, like every T8 tank, probably...
ReplyDeleteStrange question.
Ooops, sorry. Intended as reply to the first comment.
DeleteThanks. This tank sounds very promising with this high pen gun, which might become the best gun of all Tier VIII Mediums.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, I think so far that the Indienpanzer > Panther II. Let's wait how agile the Indienpanzer will be. On the other hand, it has a worse HP/ton ratio compared to the Panther II. Armour seems to be quite equal.
Erm, if you are talking about best tier 8 medium gun (and gun alone) I guess you haven't noticed Centurions top gun. Is more accurate, more penetration, aims faster, shoots a bit slower, alpha about the same.
DeleteOkay, second-best. :)
DeletePanther 2 better :) Seems like its will be hard to grinding leo 1. Gold ammo price 4k credit and only 237 penetration
ReplyDeleteThis is Panther II gun, you are talking about. Anyway, why do you even nedd substatnial ammount of gold shells on Indien Panzer or Panther II? They have very good (much more than average) penetration on standard shells.
DeleteLook at last comment in http://ftr-wot.blogspot.ru/2013/03/85-patch-notes.html
ReplyDelete-_-
Can't see anything there. If this was posted before - sorry, I get dozens of comments all over the place every day, can't keep track of everything.
DeleteIt looks like armour on this thing will be amazing.
ReplyDelete90mm on that kind of slope? Yes, please!
90mm sides are nice too.
I just wonder how much better armour on second turret will be (or if it will even have a second turret anyway, and if yes will it have better armour)? Nonetheless the turret is pretty rounded and with luck should bounce shots nicely.
On the test there was no second turret.
DeleteWhere armor has good slope it is not 90mm, where it is 90mm it is not well sloped.
DeleteOnly front rounded part of hull is 90mm, heavily sloped glacis is (IIRC) 60mm.
new 9cm gun, something to grind :(
ReplyDelete90cm=90mm, same gun as the superpershing aye?
DeleteNo, it is a german licensed version of the DCA45
DeleteStats wise its almolst identical to IS-3, except the fact that IS-3 stops it in the ground in almolst every diffrent factor.
ReplyDeleteIs the indienpanzer's 9 cm related in any way to the 90mm DCA 45? They both share many stats (damage, penetration with AP / APCR, even their aim times).
ReplyDeleteNo. As far as I know, it's a German copy of T9 Patton's 90mm gun
DeleteWhich 90mm?
DeleteT15E2 I think. The different penetration will most likely be explained by "different ammo lol"
DeleteI think it's more based off the French 90mm DCA 45. Because the French/German did create the Leopard 1.. >.>
Deletenice gun, nice all round armor but it doesnt seem much mobile with 630hp pushing 40 tons looks like a pure sniper im wondering how much depression will have...
DeleteProbably a mix of German and American Gun Depression probably like take the worse Depression of the Germans and even it out with the best American Tank with the Best Gun Depression, possibly.
DeleteGlad to see that the Indien-Panzer gets a weapon which finally has penetration. The DB has a terrible Penetration Value :(
ReplyDeleteBrotip: Play the VK3002 with the long 75mm, not the terrible 88.
DeleteIt's ugly and german. It has to be good! (and nerfed to hell after the update goes live XD)
ReplyDeleteNow fire all russian supertesters :D
ReplyDeletegot enough xp waiting for it! glad that to long 88mm can be mounted, makes the grind towards the 9cm a bit more acceptable!
ReplyDeleteThink this one is going to be fun!
No one said, the Idienpanzer is able to get equipped with the 88 KwK L/71. :/
DeleteThere's "Indien-Panzer" written in the list of tanks that can use it.
DeleteErm, if you look at the Gun it literally says "Indien-Panzer" on the 88 KwK L/71.
Deleteokay, I just saw it. |O_o| damn, the 88 L/71!?
Delete> Please note this is a RUSSIAN leak.
ReplyDeleteNope, this is EU leak. Same as here http://ftr-wot.blogspot.ru/2013/03/85-patch-notes.html .
Well, this is like the first time I see this picture, didn't come from here.
DeleteO.o
DeleteSrsly? Did you just post the link of this blog on this blog?!
I think he means its an Eu leak cause that screenshot was allready posted somewhere in the comments some days ago.
DeleteIt seems it will get the L/56 as a stock gun. That means you cannot mount the L/71 until you researched the tracks first. You guys better start saving up some free XP for either the tracks, or the 90mm gun.
ReplyDeleteif thats the case it will be a horrible grind looks like i have to save some money for gold ammo...
DeleteYou can always temporarily install suspension module.
Deletemy bet is you cant use the L71 here. The 88mm is an old gun for ww2 vehicles era only and the 90mm gun was the new standard adopted for post war vehicles.
DeleteIf you check the picture the L/71 have Indienpanzer listed as being able to mount it. So currently it has the L/71 as an option.
DeleteIsn't that bad if it only needs the tracks to be decent, ~15k free exp or suspension module solves that problem now lets hope this thing have decent terrain resistance stats or else it will probably be rather slow stock and elite.
So the accuracy of the 9cm is 0,32-0,34, interesting. Presumably it has different accuracy on different tanks, that would be a first
ReplyDeleteLol, not at all, there are actually many guns that have different accuracy on different tanks: 90 mm DCA 45;75 mm Vickers HV; 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 and more
DeleteIf 9cm KwK 54 is the last gun of Leopard Prototype A.....
ReplyDeleteYou'll scream?
DeleteIt isn't, if that comforts you.
DeleteThe prototype will share the l7a3 of the leo1.
DeleteExactly how centurion 7/1 shares the l7a1 from fv4202.
Wrong. Prototype will have L7A1. L7A3 was installed only on Leopard 1 proper, never the prototypes.
DeleteThis one actually looks promising. The gun also seems great! that 8 rof will be great.
ReplyDeleteExcept hp/ton ratio and view range, it seems to be better in everything in comparision to panther 2. Better armour, turnrate, gun, diesel engine with back transmission. im wauting for nerf.
ReplyDeleteSry, viewrange is equal for both stock. I looked at radio range
DeleteSorry for being a jerk but wasn't this picture's link posted yesterday, not today, by Anon-ST on the "VK20.01D and VK30.01D screenshots" thread?
ReplyDeleteJust go check, Frank.
im sad i wasted 50k free XP for e50 engine :P
ReplyDeleteThe only good thing about the E-50's Engine is it is also on the E-75. =P
DeleteSo far the only thing I've unlocked on E-75 is the engine, specifically with intentions to use it on E-50. :)
DeleteAnyway I think, I'll go for both German meds.
Looks like a medium fcm50t
ReplyDeletemore like fcm40t :D
DeleteI swear last time I checked the pic the engine for the indien panzer was 750 hp.
ReplyDeleteTotally unrelated to this topic but anyone know anything about the IS-5? All the other IS vehicles up until 8 are there so just piqued my curiosity.
ReplyDeleteMost everyone will have seen this by now, but I think they did a pretty good job of keeping this from us. Just announced new Soviet tree branch.
ReplyDeletehttp://worldoftanks.com/media/Soviet-Tank-Tree/
Spherical tanks? That kind?
Deletehttp://ptwinteco.no-ip.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/LPG-Spherical-Tank.jpg
April Fools' Day today, so the whole tree may be a prank.
" so the whole tree IS a prank"
DeleteFixed it for you. ;)
Oh look, a troll tree on 1st of April! That's unexpected!
DeleteTBH, I'll just skip the news for today or something...
By the way, the Soviet spherical tanks are real. They made several projects in the late 40's, it's generally a terribly retarded idea and it never led anywhere, but the projects existed.
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Delete" so the whole tree IS a prank"
DeleteNot WHOLE WHOLE tree. Basic shape is unchanged. What I meant is that spherical tanks are most definitely a prank, but I'm not sure about T-60,70,80 line, and changes on tier 2-4 before KV-1. There may or may not be some truth there.
Nothing changed in the ussr tech tree except for the Spherical tanks
Deletehttp://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/art_/ussr_full_eu.jpg
http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/media/tech_trees/russian_tree_com.jpg
T-60, T-70, T-80, T-19, T-24 and T-46-5 are not pranks
:facepalm:
Zee
everyone already said about the first source.
ReplyDeleteand also.
that was leaked by czech st.
"amagad russians are commies"
2.9 aimtime on 9cm ... -.-
ReplyDeleteSame as 88L/71 and that gun works just fine.
Deleteif we get at least -8 gun depression than maybe, 2.9 aimtime for a sniper is just too much in general.
DeletePathetic isn't it?
DeleteIt is not going to stay at 2,9s. With 100% crew it would aim 2,3s, not bad at all. I think it works this way.
DeleteSo, if wargaming banned all the european superterters for the leask, now they will ban all the russians too? XD
ReplyDelete...its just SS spreads disinformation again.
Deleteand isnt even corrected his post after many others pointed at the true leak.