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Mar 4, 2013

How to make money on 8.4

Source: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/217469-84-investment-opportunity/

In 8.4, the price for 83mm High-Explosive HE Mk.3 shells will quadruple (already confirmed as 8.4 is live on RU server). Now it costs 85 credit per shell, in 8.4 it will cost 260 silver per shell. Which means if you buy one for 85 now, you can sell it in 8.4 for 130, generating 45 credits of pure income. You can buy shells for guns you don't own in the store.

8.4 will come to EU server on Wednesday (6.3.) and to NA server on Thursday (7.3.) - at least that's the rumor.

Confirmation from RU server:


125 comments:

  1. I've seen it and got 5mil spare, but have second thoughts on that as WG could change it in the last moment.
    That would leave us with 50% loss not profit.
    Might be better to wait for final patch notes on EU portal.

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    1. So what, it's just game silver, it's not like we're investing real money

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    2. It is however also time that we lose with those credits. So it is not only money but especially the time spent to grind them.

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  2. i took a chance and bought 85000 shells for 7200000 - i hope i wont get f***** ;)

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    1. Me too, i didnt had some credits so i got it 11650 shells.

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    2. bought 12k. if this not works i'll have to shoot this ammo than carry it around.

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  3. it worked on the RU Server, right ?
    But it's no for sure that it will work for us?

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    1. It worked on RU server, yes. And it will with 99 percent chance work for us.

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    2. its in the patchnotes... under cromwell...its the 20pdr HE Mk3

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  4. Already spotted that couple of days ago and bought 32500ish shells. Will buy more until wednesday. Nice opportunity, thx for bringing that up. (y)

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  5. May want to add this in, from the source page you linked:

    _Goliard said:
    ...buy as many "PzKpfw-IIL-Großturm" as possible.
    The current price for this item is 4,700 Credits, in 0.8.4 this will be increased to 10500 Credits.
    Selling your PzKpfw-IIL-Großturm stockpile after 0.8.4 arrive on the NA server will raise your Credit balance by 5,250 Credits per turret. This means you'll make a profit of 550 Credits for every single PzKpfw-IIL-Großturm you'll sell.
    Meaning you'll get 11.70% of the Credits you invested returned in profits.

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    1. Why bother with turrets that generate such a low profit?

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    2. Sorry, did you even read?
      They generate more more than the HE shells. 550 > 45 credits.

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    3. It is like buying shares - you look at % of gain, not on particular price of one share.

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    4. One shell costs 85 Credits and generates 45 Credits -> 50% Profit.
      For the turrets you only make 12% Profits.
      Shells are better...

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    5. It's the % profit that counts, investing 10 million in HE shells you make 52% profit, investing 10 million in turrets you make 11.7% profit. Shells are a better investment by far

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    6. You guys are correct. I admit defeat, and was wrong. :(

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    7. Yes, you get more for ONE turret. But to buy one you need 4,700 creds with which you could buy a lot more shells.

      So here are facts: you earn about 11% of credits investing only in turrets, and you earn 50% of credits investing only in shells.

      Shells are better :)

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    8. you even had maths in school?
      lets say you have 5 000 000 cr:
      you can buy 1063 pz2 turrets (5000000/4700) which will give you 584 650 cr income (1063*550)
      or you can buy 58 823 shells (5000000/85) which will give you 2 647 035 cr income (58823*45)

      which number is bigger - 585k or 2 647k?

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  6. I am really tempted to buy it for 1 mil or 2 but i am affraid they'll fuck us up with some last minute change :D Any other thoughts? :)

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    1. It's just silver credits, they don't really care about a few million here or there. It's gold they care about.

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    2. Just buy it. I'm afraid they'll get a BIG shitstorm if they change it the last minute.
      You'll get your money either way ;)

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  7. Possible way out for WG:
    Release the patch as early as possible before everyone knows about it ;)

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    1. People knew about it since friday, so I guess that's not a big surprise for everyone.

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  8. My clan have also seen this, some are investing a lot of silver now, I've invested a bit that I can afford to lose now, and will make the call closer to the 8.4 release.

    Silver is relatively easy to earn with a premium, so you can always just grind hard, and in the long term this shell will fit on tanks I'm grinding toward.

    Has anybody found the limit of shells and turrets?

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  9. What about Luchs cost?
    How much cost it for now? ~35k!
    It will be cost 155k (75500 for sell)

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    1. But you can buy only one Luchs.

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  10. All servers have same prices.
    Every module,tank and shell have same price on every server.
    It will be the same thing with 83mm shells...

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  11. Well it's already on the RU server and it's not likely to have different shell prices on different servers.
    Also, it's not like WG actually frown on these profit-making schemes. They know it's likely to happen when they change content, eg. the french light tanks being moved up tiers.

    If you want to be cautious about it, try not buying any shells until you read some final patch notes on the EU portal.

    Aenaes.

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  12. they won't have the industry to build this high amount of shells!!!
    remember the period of time we are talking about :))

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  13. could be abuse of game mechanics

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  14. Ok, been thinking this through, the current "Big is Beautiful" deal for 49.99 Euro ~ £43.18 would give: -
    30 Days Premium
    Gold: 5,000
    Credits: 3,000,000
    15 Large Repair Kits

    So a return on the 3m ~ 4.5m
    anybody know what the Large Repair Kits sell for, as i'm at work?

    If it all comes off from ~ &43, get 1 month Premium, 5k gold and > 4.5m credits?

    Can anybody fill in the "math"

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  15. Won't WG just now see a sudden surge in purchase of this shell type now and therefore change it last minute? I think they will notice this exploit but what the hell, i'll give it a go, cheers :).

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  16. From the original thread seem to be the consensus that all shell/module etc. costs are the same world-wide and as the Russians already have it and I bet a few made profit from this, how can they do something different for everybody else

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  17. Repair Kits should be sold for 10k per item.
    If u do it this way:
    3 Million + 5k GOld (2 Million) + 150k (for the Items) = 5150000 Credits

    = 7876470 Credits After the Patch

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  18. Ill go for it anyway. I was thinking to invest for 137k shells. Cost me around 11 Million. That would give me a nice 6 Million in profit. :-) Ill check the test server and the patchnotes before.

    Anyway thanks for the Info Frank.

    cheers :-)

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  19. Lads, which gun and which tank is using these shells ???

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    1. in the patchnotes its under cromwell... but it is used for the centurion for, example

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    2. It is the 20-pdr (83MM), used on the Caernarvon and Conqueror.

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  20. Alright thanks.

    " The Gun QQF 20pdr Type A Barrel " (centurion t8 gun)


    The shell "PRICE" on the Test server is still 85 silver.

    !!!!!!!!

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  21. Be aware the TEST server is not what we are talking about, t comparing our current 8.3 with the 8.4 the Russians already have

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  22. I know but 8.4 is already on the test server and dont you think the price change would appear on the test server as well?

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    1. there are modifications when they past from test 2 to the official one

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    2. They probably just added a few changes (including this one) since the test server iteration and decided not to test it and just put it straight into the patch.

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    3. Thats is TEST 8.4. We are talking about REAL 8.4 on RU servers where the new price is 260 credits/shell. So, you get 130 credist/shell when u sell it.

      130 - 85 = 45 credits/shell profit

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    4. I know what we are talking about. I just thought that these price changes appear on the 8.4 test as well. However the change on RU Server gives me hope anyway. Hopefully we get it soon. I also know what my profit would be when I invest 11 Million silver. :-)

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    5. ~5.5 mil silver

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  23. Damn, I just bought M46 Patton a few days ago with my last credits -.-

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  24. Purchased:
    Shells HE Mk. 3 (70000 item(s)) successfully purchased. You have spent credits: 5.950.000.

    Fuck me if i get screwed in the last moment, im gonna kill someone!! LOL!!

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    1. You can try to kill someone, but you won't be very efficient with HE... :-P

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    2. Shells HE Mk. 3 (107991 item(s)) successfully purchased. - Credits: 9 179 235.

      Free credits on another T10 :)

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  25. 2 days until the new DERP cannon gets here, oh joy the campfests they will bring.

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  26. This time I'd like the Americans to get the patch first. Too bad we get to be the guinea pigs this time.

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  27. Can you buy the shells without owning or having researched the gun yet?

    I haven't researched any of the British stuff yet. I'd hate to miss out on a (almost) sure profit.

    Thanks

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  28. I think after this one, they will try to sync the release of the future updates in one day ... because if Russian server wasn't updated earlier, this won't happen. At least not in the scale in which is happening now :)

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    1. That can be only positive thing to get it same day as RU :)

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    2. It was known since they released the patch notes, as it mentioned the change.

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  29. Kudos for your work on this blog Frank Davis. I read it frequently and can do nothing but to compliment you on your achievements. Despite the hate of some readers I am one of those who was excited about the supertest info regarding the Leopard.

    Keep it up, best regards from Germany.

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  30. leap of faith...

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  31. Purchased:
    Shells HE Mk. 3 (195000 item(s)) successfully purchased. You have spent credits: 16 575 000.

    Please work.

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    1. jesus christ

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    2. 8775000 pure profit!

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    3. if it doesnt..

      migh be a utterly long and boring play until you wasted them.
      id guess... ~10.000 games?

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    4. 10 thousand games to get 16.5 million credits? How bad of a player can you be?

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    5. He meant 10k games to use up all those HE shells.

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  33. Thank you so much for telling us about this, would have never known if it wasn't for this post so thanks!

    If you had to guess when they release 8.4 for NA server would u say around Thursday or earlier?

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  34. hue hue hue profit!

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  35. Can it be the WG make other patch notes for the EU server?
    (Sry Google Translator)

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  36. LoL @ Noobs who think they dont Increase the Shell Price ! Do you really think WG will make Different Shell Prices @ EU & NA Server?

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  37. wot-development:
    "British Tanks:

    Crusader:

    Cost of Nuffield Liberty Mk. V engine changed from 11500 to 12500

    Cromwell:

    Cost of Nuffield Liberty Mk. V engine changed from 11500 to 12500
    Cost of 20pdr HE Mk3 shell increased to 260 credits.
    "

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  38. Balls...wish I hold off on buying my IS3 so I have an extra 2.5m to buy more shells

    Time to sell some stuff from my depot

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  39. just used up all my money on it...hope it turns out

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  40. bought only 20k shells... 0.9k profit if it works :)

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  41. WGNA removed both the original thread forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/212751-install-84-profit/page__st__80#top

    Haha i wonder why!

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    1. I spent 6M on the shells. If I lose credits, WG will lose paying customer.. easy ;)

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  42. "We need more shells!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAa05fFXKVk&feature=youtu.be&t=6m1s

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    1. I also thought of that cartoon when I read this.

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  43. and if ITDUDE is correct they hottfixed this

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    1. dismiss looks like was a misunderstood

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  44. Post on EU Forum regarding the matter (even had a youtube-vid linked, explaining it all) got erased in 14 minutes. Lets see how this plays out. WG is unquestionably aware that nearly everyone is trying to make some kind of profit...

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  45. 193,629 shells in stock. Hope this works lol.

    I sold all the modules for the T10 tanks. I buy modules only when they're 1/2 price so didn't loose anything there.

    Also sold a lot of premium ammo I had bought for 1/2 the price.

    Lets see if father SerB screws us over :)

    Denii from EU server.

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  46. If I were WG and wanted to fix this, I would simply change the price in 8.4 to 160 credits and hotfix .RU. They hotfixed for the T-34-1 camo price which basically would have cost them absolutely nothing (how many people saved 30 gold on that camo? Very few, who buys camo for a tier 7 tank anyway?)

    Some big EU clans have billions of credits on this 83mm HE trade, I'll doubt they will let this go through.

    The T-127 sale got WG North America in huge trouble and supposedly wrecked the economy for many months. This could easily compare to that if the word really spread farther than it has.

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    1. T-127 Sale? Can someone explain this?

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    2. More than half a year ago was huge bonus code giveaway for T-127. The trick it was that you can use one bonus code per e-mail, sell T-127 and repeat. You received some credits (around 150-175k) and a garage slot. You can make 5 operations per day day (the amount of sells per day admited by system) . All you need is a lot of e-mail adresses :)
      That way i made 10 garage slots and a lot of credits, until WG noticed and allowed only one T-127 per account :)

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  47. The shitstorm that would follow if they make a hotfix and people lose MILLIONS if not more, would be enormous! WG should not punish players for their stupidity

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    1. Yep. they would still do it though, likely.

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  48. 50.361 piled up... Time to play some premium tanks and get MOAR! Awesome hint, very much appreciated - kudos and thanks!

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  49. Catch the opportunity when it present itself - bought 270,000 shells for 23 millions credits. Saving is sometimes good :)

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  50. Wednesday EU 8.4 is quite doubtful, as they already posted Medal Hunt for that day.

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  51. damn... invested 90% of my silver here...
    now buy luchs and leopard?

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  52. Can anyone confirm in patch notes if this is true or not so I can buy these shells?

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  53. bought 88.000 .... trying to achieve 12.000 more...

    I want 13 millions! now :-D

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  54. http://worldoftanks.eu/en/development

    and search for 260

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    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

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    2. The thing is that this notes are from 07.02 ... I will wait a bit longer ... there is time untill midnight. I hope they have some common sence and release the updated patch notes before the servers go down.

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    3. oh damn,i read 07.03 ..........

      and today is 05.03, double facepalm :D

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  55. 183k of bullets $-$

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  56. "In 8.4, the price for 83mm High-Explosive HE Mk.3 shells will quadruple (already confirmed as"

    I guess you meant it will tripple ..

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  57. I have read on EU forum (spanish one, for more specification) that they have reported and change it.

    Bad luck to all who has bough some of this shells. I have do it.

    And now, I'm f****!

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  58. Dont write this without giving your source!

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  59. HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they changed the fucking price back!! whos gonna give me back my 12mil spent on 90k shells??!?!?!?!?!

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  60. It is still in the patch notes:
    Centurion:

    Cost of 20pdr HE Mk3 shell increased to 260 credits.

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  61. You won't lose anything if I understand correctly... The sell price will be 85 credits.

    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=pl&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.pl&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php%3F/topic/218326-llega-la-version-84/page__st__20__pid__4181079&usg=ALkJrhhlzg44tRFnf65B-21zOYEbClNMNg#entry4181079

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  62. http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/218326-llega-la-version-84/page__st__20__pid__4181147#entry4181147

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  63. Yep its confirmed. We get our credits back .


    http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/217469-84-investment-opportunity/page__st__500__pid__4181545#entry4181545

    Wow fucking greedy WG!! fuck you all who spammed the forums with threads regarding this!! because of you we got caught!

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    1. yeah dont forget, RU their fav server... if they made a fortune with 8.4 (dont tell me they didnt knew aswell) totally fine..

      but if NA or EU wants to keep up, they will get a:
      WAIT, WTF do you want?

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    2. That´s really bad. RUs get the Credits and EU/NA don´t get them. :(

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    3. Well... At least we wont lose a penny for that...

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    4. But, guys, we dont want to be part of the RU server, think about how many idiots are gathered to play and how it goes when we have +160000 logged => fucked up, think about how it must be at the RU server when I read they peak over 700000, good luck with their idiot pool...

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  64. Glad folks will at least get the creds back. But what about the gold folks might have used to by the creds? I am thinking it was all a ruse to generate more cash.

    I know we all agree to EULA - but WG needs to be careful, lest they run afoul of commerce laws.

    Clearly, WG knew what was happening on the RU server before the patch went live. They either should have let all the servers take advantage or they should have immediately announced that it was a in violation of ....whatever - and STATED the shell prices would not be changing.

    Instead - they let the scam proceed. And they knew folks would be buying silver with their gold. Which means more $$$ for WG.

    My hope is they will allow the people to convert the silver back to gold - in an amount equal to the HE shells sold.

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    1. You must be stupid if you convert gold to silver. LOL

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  65. LOL I expected something like this.

    Even though it is silver one of the reason for buying gold tanks premium accounts and in some really stupid cases gold to convert or booster packages is silver.

    If they allow people to make billions of credits over a thing like this the gold demand will drop for month or two. Especially if you have millions you can use gold ammo all the time for months without buying gold.

    Lesson learned if any of you see something like this next time keep the mouth shut.

    And I thought I will make easy 2 mills :(

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  66. So typical for Wargaming. Let the Russians earn how much they want on this price change, but don't allow to do so EU server. This is not like the first earning opportunity ever, there was a patch with French tanks, where you could profit for around 1,5 milion if I am not mistaken (haven't done that only because I'm not driving french tanks).
    Anyway, again WG shows us that for them only RU server counts. I mean how dumb do you have to be not to see that such change in price, for an item that can by bought by the thousand will make an earning opportunity? Lets be blind for the Russinas, and fuck the rest of the world.

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