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Mar 5, 2013

Beware! The 80-260 shell trick won't work

Source: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/217469-84-investment-opportunity/page__st__500__pid__4181545#entry4181545


Ectar wrote:

26 pages long, 225 people currently viewing topic....  You're all excited about what tomorrow may bring.... It will give you one of 2 things.

A - A stockpile of shells.

B - Your money back.

For shells purchased in 8.3, they sell back for the same value in 8.4,
for shells purchased in 8.4, they sell back for their increased value in 8.4

Buying a ton of shells now does nothing for you except fill your depot with lots of HE shells for the 20 pounder.  Sorry folks, the Developers were on to this. The spike in purchases especially today was kinda huge.

So people, don't stock up on those.

Gee.... and they wonder why players get pissed and publish leaks...

167 comments:

  1. Yeah.... RU gets to sell them for more but EU doesn't. Nice one devs

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  2. luchsturret might still work though
    too bad I already bought 50k shells

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  3. I hate WG...Wasted lots of money on shells

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  4. Go to hell dev's RU server can't do it, but we of course cannot...

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  5. How come..? They didn't like the euphoria or what? :/

    ah.. at least I will get my credits back..

    Hajvanho

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  6. As long as people get their money back, its not that big of an issue IMO, besides the obvious Russian bias.

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  7. They can give T34 (12k gold) for free or tier X tank for IX money, but some free credits cant?

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  8. Wow so NA and EU got fucked/trolled while RU got to profit from this ???? FUCK THIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!

    Now whoever says there is no russian bias in this game, then fuck you too!!!!

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    1. There aren't any russian bias. You just haven't learnt the soviet terminology for "balance" and "equality".

      Anyway did some russian players really benefit from this?

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    2. So how u can call this bias if they didnt know about this before some super clever guy posted it on their forum? How do u want to fix something u dont know about?

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    3. Kesky - Lots of Russians made profit, as much as 20millions from sold shells on some of the screens.

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    4. How does someone on another server making silver have any affect on you?

      It doesn't its just childish greed and self entitlement, RU gets the patch first, they always do, we often get a bug fix or two in between, this is one of those fixes.

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  9. At least we get full cost back. They didn't have to do that.
    I feel sorry for the tankers who sold tanks for the ammo, with plans to buy them back after making a healthy profit.

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    1. Im so pissed right now i could care less for the fucking loss. RU got to sell the shells for 130cr and make the intended profit!!

      While we got trolled!!!

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    2. Selling tanks for the ammo with the intention of buying the tank back after would never have worked in the first place. When you sell the tank, you have 50%. 50% return on that only puts you at 75% your original value, so you'd have taken a 25% loss by trying that.

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    3. I sold elite tanks for making more money so I could afford to buy tanks researched from them. And that is still profit. At least I have now 12 free garage slots :-)

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    4. so if you sell your 3.500.000 credits t9 heavie
      for 1.9 million you have 2.9 million

      so you make -600 000 minus.

      I sold my t9 tank from brit which i didn't needed any more

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    5. I am -0. I was to sold them anyway.

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  10. I bought credits and gold for 50 € . Now i see it was no bargain. WORKINGASINTENDED.JPG

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    1. lolwut?

      Surely you should be happy that your money bough creds fair and square compared to rest of EU server who now won't get inta creds?


      TOOMUCHLOGIC.JPG

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    2. omg this file doesn't work lads!!!!!!!1

      WORKINGASINTENDED.JPG

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  11. Well if this comes to be the truth, than FUCK YOU WARGAMING

    Denial_of_God from EU server

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  12. Aha, I was gonna wait until tonight to buy the shells thinking something like this would happen...

    Glad to be one of those whose hopes aren't crushed. Gave me an opportunity to clear out my garage of the tanks I don't particularly enjoy playing though.

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  13. LOL whiners whine because they cant exploit the game :D

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    1. Yes, of course. Why the Russians can and us Europeans can't? You think it's fair?

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    2. Its a bug and it needs to be fixed... no problem there ... or are u crying because WG doesnt want to give u free credits? Moreover do U lose anything by this? U will get the same money u had before...

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    3. I'd be fine with this if all servers got the same treatment but allowing one server to benefit from this is BS, imagine if during the IS4 swap russian server players got the tier 10 IS4 for free but EU server did not, pretty sure we would have the right to be upset there don't you agree?

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    4. How can u by accident implement a feature to give out free tanks? Thats just a totally stupid comparison.

      It was a bug they DIDN'T KNOW about it(they forgot that u would be able to make money if they increse the shell price by over 100%) before they released the patch on RU server.

      Now they realized it because someone had to shout it out on the forum-> the fix it.

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    5. btw if there would have been a bug in the patch that ru guys recieved 50% less credits in battle then they should for 5 days would u also start crying that its unfair when that bug is fixed in Eu version?

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    6. So, WG Take all the money that was unfairly earned by Russian and everyone will be happy

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  14. what BS, from the devs the US and likely the NA servers get to sell all the shells for massive profit, but us on the EU server get shafted again

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    1. Um the EU server gets updated before the NA server so we will get the same treatment.

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  15. Russians get the money,we don't.Of course,made by (War)CommunistGaming.net.Let's(battle) troll the europeans and the americans!

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  16. Yet another publicity disaster by the continually inept and greedy WG.

    Another nail in the coffin and more incompetence exposed.

    Well done, medals all round.

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  17. i will keep my bullets on the depot remember they cant keep the 85 sale price forever if the bullets will be at 260

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    1. It is a good idea if you don´t need the money right now.

      Probably in 8.5 they will be sold at its increased price, no matter when you bought them.

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  18. Russian BIAS!!

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  19. well it was also a mistake by SIlentstalker, not to post the exploit, but to recommend it.

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  20. No problem.
    We can sell our accounts...do you want FairPlay?

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  21. 2 questions remain, would it work if we dont sell them until 8.5 as some peeps sugest on the forum?
    and does it still works for the turrets?

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  22. Even their forums are so slow now. With Error 500's. It cause a massive ragestorm!!

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  23. Working as intended.

    You have to remember that WG are essentially amateurs with no skill with a history of making mediocre games.

    Then they got very very lucky with tanks, and simply are too incompetent to deal with it now.

    Also remember the business and ethical background of Russia & former USSR states that all the WG devs grew upin:
    Semi-lawless
    Endemic, systemic corruption

    The game has always been, and will always be pro-Russian to the detriment of all others.

    Working as intended.

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    1. Sad but True ... :/

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  24. Lol! I knew they would change it, lucky I waited and didn't lose all my cash. :)

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    1. noone will lose their credits.. we will just get it back, all that we invested

      Hajvanho

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    2. Some people willing to sell tanks along de-equipment cost and even buy slot for retired crew just to stock up shells. These ppl are the one lost both credit and gold.

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  25. Lol at all you crybabies. So you didn't get to exploit your way to some free credits. Big deal, nothing is lost.

    What would have been a scandal was if WN had let this go through. The people being cheated then would be those players who didn't know about your little exploit. they really would have a reason to go out with their pitchforks.

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    1. What about Russian servers? It's the same situation as you are describing. Russians get to sell their shells and have extreme profits, others don't, therefore we have a reason to go out with our pitchforks.

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  26. Stupid biased cunts. Take back the profit Russian players made or leave this alone.

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    1. Unfortunately, I think the more cuntish they are, the more they revel in it and aspire to new and greater levels of cuntishness!

      It's a self-serving cycle of cunts, doing cuntish things.

      Working as intended!

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  27. "Ectar is famous for his trolling. There is still hope :) "

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  28. This can't be for sure but somehow this smells like a trap....they could easily made Ectar to write that post just to scare people off...do you really think they can make so fast hotfix that will differentiate the shells bought in 8.3 and 8.4...they can't fix even some much simpler bugs or errors and i doubt they can fix this....and as i could understand all people who bought the shells will have the opportunity to sell them at the same price they've bought it so no money loss at all....this said does it mean we can still take a chance with this bcs we can't loose anything??

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    1. http://pokit.org/get/img/fdb3968fa48c5e9d6fd49aed089564e2.jpg
      This is what am i talking about...So basically we have a win-win situation here....if you buy the shells and this is really true you still get your money back without any loss....and if this is not true and the "exploit" still works you can still make credits....

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    2. http://pokit.org/get/img/6203ce0eddd2bfcd8f9aa2da25ca9bbd.jpg and Ectar himself confirmed this....so no risk at all people....i'm going to buy the shells anyway bcs to me it looks like a scam from Ectar and WG...if it doesn't work i'll still get my money back...

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  29. Ectar famous for trolling?? then what about Delhroh the community manager for the spanish sub-forum???

    He's a fucking troll too??

    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=pl&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php%3F/topic/218326-llega-la-version-84/page__st__20__pid__4181079&usg=ALkJrhjPYbrOmJUBL1GyUk8Hv9cDOiVCQA#entry4181079

    He confirms it too even more clearly.

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  30. Great job, WG. This method isn't correct, members of the EU and NA server cannot enjoy the benefits, only russian players. Why?

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    1. Well, because the exploit was not discovered/realised before the Russian server got updated.

      How hard can it be?

      If someone had used an exploit in a webserver to hack a bank and rob everyones banka ccounts, and the bank had fixed it, would you be like this to that bank? "Boohoo I can't steal your money because you fixed your software"

      The people whining here must all be little children, because it's mighty courageous of Wargaming to fix a discovered bug in between patch releases on different zones. They might have broken other things with their quick fix, but it all seems to work fine anyway.

      Praise them for fixing this silly bug so fast. And why would you worry about some other server having more money, you're not playing in that economic environment anyway.

      I don't think you are worried about having way more RL money then someone in Africa or South America? You're not here saying it's unfair they don't have the same opportunities as you have...

      "Boohoo, I don't get to cheat as good as they do". See how silly that sounds?

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  31. I will try: buy new ammo on higher price, try to sell, I wander what will happend :D

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    1. This.
      Unless they create 2 separate types of shells, they can't keep count which ammo was bought before and after 8.4. I will buy ammo before and after the patch too and see if the system can be trolled.

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    2. But... don't spread the word too much ;)

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  32. What happens if you sell your shells you bought now in 8,5 instead of 8.4? Anyone? Is their anyway they can do something about getting the profit then?

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    1. About this, worth trying, saw ppl already saying they will try that way, but my guess... if there is really any "shell version check" it is related to version in which you bought shells, not the one you are trying to sell in. So... shells bought in 0.8.3 will stay marked as so forever.

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    2. That would make sense, yeah. Thx.

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  33. First of all, i feel sorry for guys that were actually selling tanks to buy shells, most stupid shit ever ^^
    Secondly, as long as you are not the dude mentioned above, buying that shells today makes no harm to you, if it doesnt work, you will get all your credits back tomorrow, and if it is trolling/saving throw (trying to do some damage control) from mods, there is still hope, and no risk to try it.

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  34. Unleash the RAGE!

    ;)

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  35. I`m so happy I didn't bought those shells,I was still grinding the money when i read this post.


    Also,selling tanks/equipment/etc for buying shells is a mistake as you get less money.

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  36. I sold tanks because I don't play them anymore, or needed to move up to the next tier. This is a good reason to stop giving money to war gaming. They made a mistake, so they punish players isntead of accepting it is their own fault. Preventing it from happening in the future is as easy as limiting shell purchases. Pissing people off is a long term problem, the shells is very short term, 50% isn't a huge margin.

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  37. I don't see the problem here. The russian server has nothing to do with EU so why would anyone care if they get to exploit? I'd have been mad if they just let all of you abuse this, because people who didn't would feel the effects (endless gold ammo).

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  38. awesome... RU gets a bonus. EU and NA gets screwed again. Good job WG, working as intended...

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  39. Ok the fault lies in wargaming. HOWEVER we are also at fault, or more specifically that creator of that investment topic is the one to blame. Seriously it used to be a select few who knew this. I knew about this exploit before that topic got posted way back, and a select few from another gaming forum I was in.

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    1. you are realy selected, not worth mentioning what...

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    2. Yeah you are the only one who deserved to "exploit" this, other ppl ofc not..go away, you selected kid.

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    3. Did I say that? No I did not, feel free to exploit it but don't go posting on the official forums and ruining everyone else chances to exploit which that topic creator did.

      Now its in ruins.

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    4. They should have got the clue when the russians bought alot of that ammo, and one day after, sold it with profit. They should have seen it coming, even before that forum post that you are talking about came out...

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    5. They should, but they did not.

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  40. "The spike in purchases especially today was kinda huge."
    Yeah that's usually what happens when somebody posts it on a blog with over 600k page views. This is why we can't have nice things. Thanks SS.

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    1. What about threads on EU/NA forums and many other non-WoT forums?

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    2. It's not like he was the only one to post this, haha. Keep your bs talk to your family, smartass.

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  41. Issue is this never was exploit in full sense. It was usual price change and i refuse to believe that no one in WG didnt think of possibility of making credits when they bumped shell price in first place. They could have gained a lot of respect if they ignored this .

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  42. bunch of morons crying that they could not make a profit form an exploit WG patched after they discovered it with RU release of 0.8.4
    they are also crying russian bias .. wmahhahahahhahaahaha

    well, time to open your wallets if U need "extra" Cr
    morons!

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    1. me?
      can't you see I'm laughing as loud as my lungs can hold

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  43. hahaha nice try WG i will still buy shells :)

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  44. They said well you could always make an account on the Russian server. Haha, great idea, war thuner here I come.

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  45. ^.o?? So you're saying WG didnt notice anything strange regarding the RU community which is larger than NA+EU+SEA, yet they suddently got our ass busted?

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  46. Wargaming: Fixing a bug that benefits the player for 2 out of 3 servers, and then WG wonders why people get jealous and angry at the one server that could use that bug.

    Really their ineperience and naivity is astonishing at times.

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  47. btw they changed the teck tree for not to give free tanks with garage slots... see t34 m103, is4 is8, kv split, kv3 t150, amx12t elc -> and now luchs!

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  48. You know, it strikes me that WG quite possibly fixed the exploit in their server-side software (Since this is where the fix would happen, being the prices are obtained from the server) after they discovered it following the launch of 8.4 to RU.

    This means that even if no-one had publicized the exploit it still wouldn't have worked for the EU and NA servers as they would be deploying the fixed server-side part of the patch as a matter of course.

    So don't feel too bad guys, you get your cash back (Unless you were silly enough to sell tanks, that was just a dumb thing to do since selling a tank gives you 50% return thus the exploit profit from that would still be less than what you spent on the tank in question...)

    As I software developer I can state with some authority that this is how things are often done. Minor fixes to stuff that users don't really see (I.e. Server-side software) are not advertised unless it will have a major negative effect.

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  49. yeah Serb says no russian bias no russian bias and then all u see is shit that serves russians only!!! wow
    fukin for real!

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  50. does that mean we r getting out money back?
    or half of our money back?

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    1. Half of your money... Read the post

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    2. You lose nothing. Learn to read

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    3. I can read:
      For shells purchased in 8.3, they sell back for the same value in 8.4
      Which means if the shell cost 200 and sells for 100 in 8.3 it will sell for 100 in 8.4 (if you bought it in 8.3)

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    4. They sell back for the same value that you bought them for.

      Ectar even says we'll get "Your money back". He didn't say half now did he?

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    5. The thing is that is not how it's written if you look at both lines.

      For shells purchased in 8.3, they sell back for the same value in 8.4,
      for shells purchased in 8.4, they sell back for their increased value in 8.4

      If you use the same logic on both then it would mean that if you buy the shells in 8.4 they would sell back for the purchase price.
      So really if you read it says that you will sell it back for the same amount as you sell the shells for, not the same amount as you buy the shells for.

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    6. For shells purchased in 8.3, they sell back for the same value in 8.4,
      for shells purchased in 8.4, they sell back for their increased value in 8.4

      For the first line: if a shell costs 200 then in 8.4 it will sell back for 100 (half the price as usual)
      For the second line (in 8.4) if the shell got increased to 400 then it will sell back for 200 (half the price as usual).

      That is the way it is written.

      It's not written like this:
      for first line if a shell costs 200 then in 8.4 it will sell back for 200
      if that's true then it would mean the second line is like this: (in 8.4) if a shell costs 400 then it will sell back for 400

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    7. dude your completely wrong, three people have tried to tell you that (along with the rest of this post and the HEad of EU forum, NA forum....) but yet you still think your right, you definitely need to learn to read.

      "For shells purchased in 8.3, they sell back for the same value in 8.4,
      for shells purchased in 8.4, they sell back for their increased value in 8.4"

      SO if I by 85 credit shell in 8.3 it will sell for 85 in 8.4

      That same shell cost 260 in 8.4 and if you buy it then you will sell it for 130 not 85 like the people who bought in 8.3!

      But that doesn't matter anyway since they officially posted that they are just changing the shell price to 170 in 8.4 so either way they will sell for 85!

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    8. Seeings are you retarded? lern 2 Read , we get the Full Price back

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  51. I have good new comrades, despite being unable to stop botting and alt accounts they are going to be able to track down the russian offenders and take the silver back. Hopefully but doubtfully WG is giving everybody a fist up the ass for their own incompetence.

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  52. So, Wargaming wrote entirely new functionality into the game code in 3 days. I wonder what they broke.

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  53. Maybe you should not have posted it on your shitty blog?

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    1. It was posted everywhere, not just here...

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    2. Raging kid on the MAAAXXXXMIUM !

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    3. This blog is for sure not shitty, anonymous.

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    4. yeah, this blog is AWeSOME!!!!

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    5. Oh, why are you visiting the "shitty blog" than? Go away you piece of trolling shit!

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  54. PHAAAH!! I didn't fell for it! already thought that they would do something about it! wont gain or loose anything!

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  55. How would the RU server know about it in the first place?

    Since they were the first one to be patched.

    The reason this was noticed by WG, is by This blog posting it and it being posted on the forums..

    Which makes Silentstalkers comment:

    "Gee.... and they wonder why players get pissed and publish leaks... "

    even more strange. What do you mean by that comment? You are in fact one of the guys making this thing not happening?

    wtf?

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    1. they got patch notes before, so they knew it :)
      but as ectar states, it wasn't well known
      if ss didn't post it you wouldn't knew it, your comment is without any sense....

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    2. Lol. Stfu anonymous troll. Silentstalker had nothing to do with this.
      But ofc you already knew that you jealous czech trollboy. I bet your just one of those butthurt SS's czech enemies he's been talking about. Ha ha in your face loser :D

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  56. wtf are this assholes doing?
    no more money for this rassists

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  57. Nice that I have waited ;)

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  58. LOLLLLLLL KNEW IT! ha sucks that, i knew they would see an influx in purchases, i was right! like i always am...

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  59. Who was the fuck tard who make this change public? some of a bitch, it's his AbysmalNoble for making it so the everyone would see...gay...!!

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    1. He wasn't the first to make it public.

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  60. People knew it was risky, people did it anyway, people are now pissed off they got caught.
    I'm losing my faith in mankind...

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  61. One thing that should be kept in mind:
    That was a moderator, not an actual developer that replied.

    I don't think we can know for sure how things will work until EU is up with 8.4 on it tomorrow morning.

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  62. I don't see where is the problem and why everybody is so pissed off. If it won't work, like they say, you will get your money back. Nobody will lose anything ... If it works(by some chance), then you win.

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    1. I don't have a really big problem with it either, but what most people have an issue with is that this DID work on the Russian servers and people there DID profit from it only to have Wargaming intervene and prevent this from happenning on other servers.

      So, people on one server did profit from this, while people on other servers are denied the same. I get Wargaming's stance aswell. They made a shelltype more expensive and people buying cheap and selling high was an oversight from them that they overlooked.

      You can arque thats a pretty big oversight and you would be right, but it is still an oversight and it's obvious that this sort of profit was not what they had intended.

      People saying it's only a few credits I think might be underestimating how many millions of credits would have been made in total as this scheme was getting REALLY big on the EU community.I wouldn't be surprised if we are talking more then a billion credits being invested like this leading to atleast a half billion credits being given out by Wargaming. That is I think a pretty conservative estimate and even then very substantial. So, I understand why they hotfixed this and I can't blame them too much for it.

      I DO think Wargaming should seriously improve it's communication and PR with the WoT EU community as it seems it's severely lacking and the suspicion that the RU server and players are being favoured and getting benefits above people from other servers has only been confirmed the past few weeks.

      - One would only have to look at the supertesters and where the far majority of them come from.
      - Why only the Russian supertesters get gold.
      - Why despite these facts the number of Russian supertesters who seem to be lacking in some ways is disproportianately high.
      - Why the EU community doesn't get a new server and the Russian community does, while the EU community seems to need a server more.
      - Why the patches are always first implemented on the Russian server and not at the sametime for all servers.
      - Why the patchnotes and info on CW is either mostly late or lacking.
      - Why developers and company hardly if ever respond to claims or give us some decent info, etc.

      These aforementioned things, whether they are fair complains or not, are atleast seemingly not publically addressed by Wargaming and together with the longer existing suspucions about the Russian bias in vehicles, again whether these are fair suspicions or not, have created a very negative image of Wargaming here in the EU community and a feeling of resentment, and now with this shell thing, outrage at Warmgaming. Basically a lot of people are feeling like 2nd class citizens. Whether right or not doesn't really matter as the PR-damage to Wargaming is now substantially bigger and more significant then it should have been IF Wargaming had adressed some of the (pressing) concerns and feeling of unease here in the EU community.

      IF Wargaming wants to prevent further damage to their image in the future I suggest they really start working on their communication with the EU community and providing these people with all the same information as being given to the people on the Russian servers. IF not it's only a matter of time before a new shitstorm surfaces and Wargaming will get another PR image hit and while that may not be a huge problem as of now it could really become one if new competitors come on the market and the loyalty towards Wargaming won't be such as they themselves expected it to be.

      Just my two cents...

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  63. they offer better bonuses with every week on specials. so they could easily fix any change in economy modifying specials, so no one would be aware.

    Instead of that, they changed shell prices, crushing hopes of everyone who was planning to use it.

    How stupid and incompetent you have to be as community coordinator, to not understand why people are pissed of and to tell them to stop being angry "bacause I say so"?

    I think it requires WG employee level of stupidity.

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  64. The patch notes have been changed to now say the price of the shells are going up to 170 credits, so money back. On the fun side of things we now have a mismatch between game versions on the main servers. GG WG.

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  65. Frank DavisMar 4, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
    So what, it's just game silver, it's not like we're investing real money

    Cool story bro. Your reaction to all this is priceless.

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  66. okay im never going to spend any €uros to wargaming after this! u dont win a single bit! but hey, wargaming! NO PROBLEM! u dont lose either money!
    i ll still play this game for free! so dont worry, i exploit u from now on.

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    1. is it worth it? having all that money locked for that long.

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  67. It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
    Russian BIAS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OyrX11cMkE

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  68. So let me get this straight...all 83mm HE shells bought from 8.3 will always sell back for 85cr no matter how the price increases in future patch? So there's no point in hanging on to them like a long term investment?

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  69. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!

    i love this

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  70. Suddenly, the EU forum and website are offline due to "maintenance works". What a "coincidence". Did the EU customers raged too much about your stinginess and unequal treatment of RU and EU customers?

    Hopefully, WG makes an official announcement on the RU website and reclaims the profit of those RU players which used this shell trick.

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    1. hurr durr, that always happens when they patch the game.

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  71. Russian cheating dogs

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  72. It was called exploit when they gave free premium T34 to all who had the tank in the garage? You watch the patch notes, trust they will do what they say in them, and act accordingly; ie i grinded t34 before that patch to make sure i have it in the garage; this is the same - patch notes - price changes - act accordingly (buy shells to do WHATEVER i want with them); except for one thing - THEY CHANGED WHAT THEY SAID IN THE PATCH NOTES.

    Stop payin' them for this s**t

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    1. Yea and everyone had like a whole fucking month advance to grind it, if i remember correctly.!! the whole server could have easily grinded it.

      Now out of the sudden its wrong if we take advantage. They BECAME GREEEEEEDY!!

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  73. Srsly FUCK YOU WG. I wouldn't care if it hadn't worked on RU server, but it did and now?! "Better fix this" Fking bitches.

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  74. I just love This community....

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  75. Ahahaha. "It's not fair, Russians got to exploit the game and I didn't." The amount of butthurt is delightful. Be grateful your getting your credits back instead losing half of them.

    Did anyone really expect this to work? well maybe I did I have a nice stack of 30k useless shells, but complaining because what was obviously a mistake was fixed, please, I'm just glad to get my silver back and go play the new TD's

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  76. Mass hysteria is massive...
    I had my doubts if it would work anyways, no official patchnotes anymore, looked sort of fishy. Still decided to buy 58996 shells, have now less than 85 credits in my account. Anyways it is just a computer game it's not like there was anything real at stake, and if you argue now about all the time you spent grinding the credits - well - you would have played anyways wouldn't you? If you sold stuff, that you didn't buy half priced than your maths skills are off anyways, and gambling like that puts you beyond help.
    If the official shell price is only going to be 170 now, like someone said above, they'll either change it in a consecutive patch or it will stay as it is. Will approach it this way: See it as a piggy bank. If I need credits now, I'll sell some shells for the same price I bought them, but keep the vast rest in hope that with one of the next patches they'll raise the price to the originally intended 260. I doubt that there's a timestamp on every of those million shells out there.
    But seriously people, don't get so wound up by a computer game. If you take it all that serious, then it might be time to move to something else, where your level of seriousness will lead to something valuable. Srsly...
    Now let's go and have some fun lads, shall we?

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  77. Well, we all know that we gambled. We could have lost half of our money. So it is nice of WG isn't it?

    Not in my opinnion. I'm not a spoiled who thinks he deserves everything cause he has money. Far from it. I'm mad at WG because they created the game I like very much and at the same time I feel treated like a stupid morron. You just don't change game rules during play.

    There was a time I liked SerB trolling. It was so different from the usual big corp official bullshit. But now I think he is just another troll, a lucky one but just a sad troll.

    Yorrick

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  78. Hehe the reactions of you guys are hilarious. Using words as 'disaster' is just.. LOL. Come on, it's a freaking game after all. Do you feel treated? Quit the game. And all those whiners about how WG are amateurs.. why do you play it then? The only argument you guys have is that there is no other tank game. If a village has only one pub, in which you don't like the people, are you still going there and whine that the people don't like you? No you stay home or go to another town.

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    1. I DO think WG are approaching the EU community with quite a level of amateurism that truth be told I don't expect from such a company and we play the game, because either we like the game OR the idea of the game. Not that hard to grasp I would say. Also people for the most don't feel cheated, but more like they are on the second row of the game as opposed to the people on the Russian server and though some arguments are off-base, Wargaming does seem particulalry keen to strengthen that particular feeling.

      Either way, I'm not too worked up about this shell thingie not working, I do feel like Wargaming should seriously improve it's communication issues which it now is undeniably having. It is enough for me to leave the game? No. Will I give a competitor atleast an interesting look when it comes on the block? Sure. Will I leave WoT if I like it more then WoT? Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell, but fiasco's like these don't help, but hurt Wargaming and it's image that it want to project and that is something they should be interested in. Even if our community is not nearly as big as the Russian community.

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    2. You're right about the communication issues. Things like announcing specials at friday evening is just.. stupid. But feeling you're on the second row is just odd.

      People take this game way too serious. Whining about game mechanics that don't work properly.. OK, that's just good. Whining about 'fair treatment' while the whole world is all but fair is just.. odd. Also, they just did their job.. fixing bugs.

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  79. I agree that they fixed their... well not bug, but mistake and they have been very reasonable about returning exactly what you invested, so there's that and that's good.

    I do think, whether true or not, they have been increasing and confirming the feeling and ideas of a lot of EU community (and IF I understand correctly on the NA community aswell, don't know about the SEA community) people that the Russian population is getting favourable treatment. Wargaming should actually have been trying to defuse that feeling which is working against them and their commercial interests. This shell thing is just the latest in a list/string of things that enhance the aforementioned feeling.

    With regards to "it's just a game", true, it is just a game, but given how the game works most people have (voluntarily) invested a lot of time and a lot of people also some or a lot of money in it, so there's that to consider aswell.

    I don't think we are that far off in how we view this.

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  80. Regarding number of shells bought and such GenralDirection on US forum gave out them

    http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/213111-84-20pdr-he-mk3-shell-change/#top

    There he also states that the price was an honest mistake; i.e. price is now balanced and the new price will stay so

    My resentment is towards the customer unfriendly approach from WG. If they publish patch notes prior to release, it goes active,..then they change it for the other communities since "it will destroy game economics and balance"!?!? yeah right,.. sigh..

    _b_

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  81. I love all this mad about the Russian bias, commercial companies always gave different treatment to different customers for a lot of reasons, but only the kids playing WoT scream about it. If you think that Russians receive a better treatment just learn the language, open another account and play on their server, just like I buy an American R1 DVD if I think that the PAL R2 one sucks too much for my standards.
    Anyway, 8.4 is out, did anyone already check it out? I'm downloading it slooowly as usual.

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  82. Checked it. The 83mm cost 170 now (only for us who have some bought in 8.2 i think). Did anyone buy that 94mm HE Shells that they raised from 83 to 250 Creds?

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    1. there is different price between 94mm HE of 32 pounder and 3.7 inches howitzer

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    2. Thanks, I'm really almost tempted to keep them until 8.5 at this point, just for the sake of playing a little game with WG.

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  83. I'm on the server shells are 170 to buy so 85 to sell. Prbly will raise the price in 8.5 to 260

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    1. Yes, I hope so. I'll save my shells and wait until WG decides to give them their intended price back. The PR department of WG should get fired, I never saw so much incompetence before.

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    2. inb4 WG waits until most players sell back their shells to change the price.

      Game on. You sell first you lose.

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  84. WG is company with a bunch of idiots. They block the EU forum since this morning in order to prevent a discussion about this issue (preferring RU customers). I call this censorship.

    Let's be honest: WG just caused an huge PR disaster and rage around the EU community, only to save a small amount of credits. I'm sure that only 5% of the active players knew about this "exploit". Now, lots of people are angry about this unequal treatment. Furthermore, most of these "5% players" are WoT veterans who would have spend gold for converting XP or crew members for new tanks, which would have been bought with these gained credits.

    This solution is by far the worst choice for WG, since the smell of bias and disregard of non RU players rises again.

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    1. > They block the EU forum since this morning in order to prevent a discussion about this issue (preferring RU customers). I call this censorship.
      I call this update, it always blocked both the main website, forum and obviously the game itself, stop acting like a spoiled child.

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    2. As far as I know, this is the first time that both EU forums and EU website are down for so long due to an update.

      By the way, I have unequal treatment. If you can live with that, it's ok, but I hate it.

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    3. They already announced yesterday that the update was going to take until 13:00 CET, they "lied" by approximately one hour, both the forum and main website are online now (Firefox is a little bitch and it'll keep displaying that pic with the two girls unless you force reload each page with shift+reload) while the update got released just on time.

      >By the way, I have unequal treatment. If you can live with that, it's ok, but I hate it.
      Perfect equality is an utopia like communism, how old are you?

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  85. Having personal principles like "equal treatment" has nothing to do with social naivety or age. I always try to act equitably. You can call me benevolent, but that's the way I think.

    Sorry for OT.

    WG has just made a wrong PR decision with this issue, that is at least my opinion.

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  86. Funny how some people consider reading skills as "exploit" or "cheating".
    Well... for 95% of WoT player base it probably is.

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  87. WG gets away with whatever they want and will keep doing so because community fails in self control. If everyone who has said "i quit" and "no more gold" actualy did it WG would be alot more customer friendly.

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  88. We will see which one of us is smarter, when it is time to renew my premium account. :)

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  89. So people got mad... because they wanted to exploit what was an honest mistake in 8.4 that was abused by the RU server, which WG in response to that implemented measures to prevent said exploit from happening on the servers that have yet to get the patch?

    Calling this "Russian Bias" is like saying that the police have "First Murderer Bias" because the first murderer was able to kill his victim, yet the other two murderers who followed suit got caught before they could too. WG saw people had abused the feature on the RU server - which was the first to get 8.4 - and acted to prevent the exploit from happening on the other servers to follow. People thought they could get easy money using an unintended exploit, and now that they can't use it they rage, and then they call WG greedy. Human nature, so typically hypocritical.

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    1. Well, they didn't solve the turret exploit, only came back with 12% interest, but was still left alone. The torrent for update was available for a couple of days already, so everyone and their dogs at wargaming knew, what was going to happen without dropping a hint, + news about patch release without update notes. All this on top of an already very abysmal community relations work. I really don't know what they're thinking at wargaming, somehow I have the feeling they feel invulnerable. It is high time a serious competitor shows up.

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  90. Least those turrets still worked.
    I earned somehow 1 mil with them :)

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  91. ok, look at it in other way.. what if it could be new trend when EU ammo will be cheaper than in RU? did they change RU ammo price already? (to 170?).

    If not.. maybe they simply want to keep this trend and in future a lot of our ammo can be cheaper than in RU server ;)

    I know, maybe thats stupid. But I think they simply CAN'T leave it as it is, so where prices will be different...

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  92. http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/213121-speculation-expectation-and-entitlement/page__st__120__pid__3898821#entry3898821

    Can someone confirm the information in this post that 83mm HE shell purchased in 8.3 are flagged and will only resell for 85 cr? I want to know now so I don't get my hope up and my credit tie up

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  93. I think online stores offering cash back schemes should be availed as hey helps a lot in saving money...

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