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Mar 26, 2013

26.3.2013

Today it was full of trolling and garbage, not even funny = skipped it.

- WoT Blitz game has been announced for tablets. Here you can see the screenies
- it's possible the new German medium branch will not start from the VK3002DB after all, but with VK2801 and the recon Panther - if that happens, SerB states there will be no compensations for VK3002DB XP many people collected for the Indienpanzer
- freshly unlocked (NOT bought in garage) stock vehicles get better MM for a few battles (unclear how many) (SS: I thought this was cancelled long time ago, wtf?)
- the option to disable general chat is not planned for now
- there won't apparently be premium high tier arty for any nation (they found very few candidates, if any, so they decided not to implement it at all)
- gold consumables for credits confirmed (yet again)
- new maps with "assault" and "encounter" mode were considered (SS: as in, more current existing maps transferred into those modes)
- there will be no more measures taken to reduce the amount of high tier arty until the T10 arty is introduced
- Storm states that in 99 percent of cases, branches aren't changed after the patch hits the general test, the only cases of changes are obvious errors
- there will be premium US TD (confirmed)
- new company interface won't be introduced around summer
- Soviets will recieve a premium arty vehicle
- regarding the Failowe VK7201 Q: "Devs, calm me down and tell me this won't make it to the live server?" A: "What don't you like about that tank?"
- color filters are planned, without the possibility to turn off, like in Battlefield
- there will be no tier 10 premium tank (SS: so the premium VK7201 status is just a placeholder, which means there will be a full branch of this crap. My gues: T7: VK7001 T8: Leichter Lowe T9: Schwerer Lowe T10: Failowe), Storm says the info about it will be announced later, it is not planned to be an analogue vehicle to the FV215b (183) and it will not be apparently the top 2nd TD line vehicle. Storm also states the FV7201 tank is not an april's fool (at this point, Storm and SerB got pissed about people asking about vehicle statistics from the supertest leaks and started handing out bans)
- the shell accuracy spread (where exactly does the shell fly in the aim circle) mechanics have not been changed since cca 2010, it's the same for all vehicle classes and it's not affected by having an enemy in your sights
- mine fields will not be introduced in random games, it might appear in clanwars
- Maus won't be removed from the game (SS: Russians start all sorts of retarded rumors)
- 0.8.5 test will not start in March
- the rule that the shell flies the distance of 10 its calibers after the penetration within the tank applies for all guns (20mm cannon shell flies 20cm from the armor)
- in historical battles, vehicles are generally planned not only to have historical modules, but also other characteristics (for example the accuracy and rate of fire of a Tiger and IS was mentioned)
- no wheeled vehicles (difficult to implement)
- premium Soviet medium tank won't appear in 0.8.5 or 0.8.6 most likely
- it's completely possible Britain will get a tier 7 or 8 premium medium tank, "no guarantees" tho
- FV 215b (183) is doing fine statistically
- Leopard 1 max speed is currently set on 65 km/h
- Ruinberg will be fixed (too hilly)

As for the new map, the Russian "In Development" section says the tanks will most likely clash in the villages in the mountains, each of them has a bypass corridor where heavy tanks can fight in cover from artillery, fast tanks can fight around and over the river in the green area full of foliage and ancient temple. Americans already unveiled it officially.

Also, here's the Russian winrate statistics for last 2 weeks or so



From DoM1N (Polish community contributor) we have some screenshots of 8.5 detail changes. Cheers mate!











123 comments:

  1. How nice of them to post tech trees in advance and then change their mind... Well, that's over a 100k xp grinded for nothing on the VK3002DB.

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    1. I guess they want to keep the VK3002DB line free for the Failowe.

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    2. And in what way that would make any sense?

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    3. not sure why people will farm xp when the devs didnt make a test server but then why they will instroduce a new vk3002db?(v1)...

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    4. They can keep it open for the Imperial Battlecruiser for all I care.... Converting XP FTW. Most people suck at playing higher tier LT's, so I'm not sure what the quality of Leo players will be, if they do that... But it's like the Chinese tree... milking money from the playerbase.

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    5. It better be the Vk3002DB. What other Tier 7 tank would this line start from then? It makes more sense to have the VK3002 to start this line instead of the Panther, because Daimler Benz was one of the designers of the Indien Panzer.

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    6. I'm not worried 'cause I pre grinded xp, I'm worried because the huge Spähpanther :(

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    7. I think I'm a terrible person.

      I would like to see the Leopard line starting at the VK2801 just to watch the sh*tstorm that'll rise up.
      :popcorn:

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    8. I think that their intention is to make at least some percentage of players who grinded xp to pay ~4000 gold for convert and slow down those ones who don't pay.

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    9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZubCxEY80&feature=player_detailpage#t=242s

      "If you open the full german techtree.... you will see the Indienpanzer after VK3002DB.... also developed by Daimer-Benz. Maybe these tanks will share some modules...

      SerB is trolling, dont worry.
      ;)

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    10. Not want to discourage you, but before PzIV... change, devs promised gun that was to be balanced similarily to T-34 ZiS-4 57mm gun: "7.5 L48 will be balanced similarly to the 57mm ZiS4, though with slightly higher alpha and slightly slower rate of fire (approximately equal DPM), and at least equal accuracy." [Source:http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/148568-official-qa-thread-75-era/page__st__200#entry2451589]
      So the fact that they stated something, in reality doesn't mean squat. Face it - WG has no clear, solid idea how they want their game to look like. They are full of (sometimes stupid) ideas and are all over the place with them. It is entirely possible that they'll just state that "conception changed" or anything, and we cannot do anything against that, not until WoT has any competition. Right now WG is a monopolist and can do everything they want.
      But don't worry, if the line will actually start from VK 2801, I'll be there to show video you linked up their mout (not that I believe that will do anything good, except exposing their lies and not keeping their promises).

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  2. Current Lowe is heavier lowe, right? I wonder if they do something to it or just add another one.

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    1. No, current Lowe is also unhistorical, it's a mashup of heavy and "middle" Lowe variant.

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    2. Hey! You promised us an article about Lowe development Silent?

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    3. Not really, it's basically an optimized version of W1662. My guess with the tiers are like this:


      Tier 7: VK 70001
      Tier 8: W1 661
      Tier 9: W 1663
      Tier 10: VK 7201

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    4. Here is an interesting thread with some pics, based on speculations. But you can see how the new Loewe line COULD look:

      http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/216130-redesigning-the-german-heavy-tank-tree-pic-heavy-new-guns-new-tanks/

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    5. So much BS stuff from Achtungpanzer were used in that tree (Löwe came BEFORE Tiger II, rear tier was never only for Leichte Löwe) that I tend to ignore all those proposals.

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    6. Errm I don't think they would add the E-75 Ausf. M, it sounds too much Overpowered in their eyes.. aka WG.

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  3. Hey, got any other news about the IS-7 (I only read it will get a buff). Man, it has the lowest Winrate among all of the tanks in the picture...

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    1. It's because every other russian monkey plays it and then ofc sux with it and there's the reason why it's WR is bad....if you look at the tank itself it's the biggest easy mode tank to play(there's also the reason why it's most used tank in CW together with E5)...i myself personally play with IS7 when the game pisses me of and then want something to play that will relax me....most tougher turret and hull armor from the front...add to that famous "spaced armor" on the side armor and you have God mode tank...ofc if you are the biggest moron that ever existed on the planet you'll suck even with it....

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    2. Must be a lot of morons then. 11k games and 47% win rate... Also similar statistics in the U.S. server from what I've heard. I guess everyone must be playing everything else better, ok sure. Nevertheless, E100 needs a buff.

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    3. Ry0ken here:
      First look at the amounts of games played with the respective tanks. Easy to see that T62A and IS-7 are played x-times more then comparable tanks of other nations. And because ppl tend to play their nations tanks it's easy to guess lots of Russian n00bs play the Russian tanks and this is why the tanks winrates are so low. It's the retards playing!

      Buffing/nerfing by winrate is bullshit to beginn with. They should look at damage/battle or spotdamage/battle and both should be done with respect to the average players damage or spotdamage. Then you would easy see which tanks do overperform. Or simply look at which tanks are used in TC and CW!

      ALSO I would love to see the "number of players"/winratio curves for all those tanks.
      I have educated guess that we would see a double peek in several of those curves which would proof once more that the arithmetic mean of the winrates means shit! But this is how WG does!

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  4. "- Storm states that in 99 percent of cases, branches aren't changed after the patch hits the general test, the only cases of changes are obvious errors"

    What does this mean exactly? WG does not adjust any parameters of newly introduced tanks, based on results in general test?

    "- color filters are planned, without the possibility to turn off, like in Battlefield"

    Do we have to fear black and white or sepia colour filters? I hope not!

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    1. It means that if you get a branch you dont like and it makes it to the test, tough luck...

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    2. Almost like grinding through the Chinese Tanks Turd of a Tier 5 instead of spending Gold to Skip it...

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    3. Darkquest - you mean Type T-34? Awesome tank, very fun to play, fast gun with sloped armor, I stormed through it with 61% WR and a crap load of giggle. I even made a Steel Wall on it. But, Chinese tanks in general aren't for everybody and they are difficult to master - try 59-16, if you didn't like Type T-54, this one will make you cry :D

      TL;DR: L2P ;)

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    4. I just realized one thing about color filters. As much, as it's cool to have them, wouldn't modding them to say - bright tanks on gray background give kinda unfair advantage to the player playing with such a setting ?

      EU server - duboss

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    5. That's hilarious. You got the tank's name right once than you got it wrong at the end of your paragraph; Uh, what? That's quite nice for your EGO then; I guess. Also it's probably because I have so much on my plate aka 3 Tier 9s to Tier 10 aka the British Medium, Heavy and the French TD. Learn to play? When I've been playing this game since it was launched and I have 52% win rate and 18k Battles.

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    6. I agree with anonymous. The Type T-34 is a very fun tank. The only real problem it has is the lack of gun depression. Also, just because you have 18k battles doesnt mean that a tank you say is bad is instantly bad.

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    7. Uh, then the M3 Lee is the only exception to the rule of being bad? Though I think everyone said that tank sucked even the SUPER Good players.. >.>

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    8. Wow, yeah, I made a typo, that invalidates the whole point - flawless logic. M3 Lee is a crap tank, no argument here. It can be played right and shine it able hands (not mine), but I had no fun at all in that one. Type T-34 suck when you start playing it, same as AMX 40 or even VK 36001. But once you gear it up, and especially, once you learn to play it, it's a great tank and quite fun to play.
      Back to 59-16, it was so painful to grind at first because of its super crap guns, but towards the end it was immensely fun to play - the tank didn't change, but I adapted to it.
      BTW 52% WR isn't something to brag about, I have 53%, my buddy has 57%, he plays heavy tanks, I play mostly lights which while able to turn the tides of battle, don't really decide the actual outcome so WR doesn't tell the whole story - the point being that avg. exp. in conjunction with WR means something while the WR alone doesn't.

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  5. Storm also states the FV7201 tank is not an april's fool (at this point, Storm and SerB got pissed about people asking about vehicle statistics from the supertest leaks and started handing out bans)

    - regarding the Failowe VK7201 Q: "Devs, calm me down and tell me this won't make it to the live server?" A: "What don't you like about that tank?"

    There is not enough facepalms in this world...

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    1. looking at its stats it could be a good tank. but I'd have to wait until I take it out for a few test runs. Alot of people cry about the FV 215(b) 183 claiming it's OP. But as the server stats show, it's got a slightly less than 50% win rate, which is far from OP.

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  6. in historical battles, vehicles are generally planned not only to have historical modules, but also other characteristics (for example the accuracy and rate of fire of a Tiger and IS was mentioned)
    at least no random accuracy in this mode :)

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    1. So Tiger I needing a minute to rotate the turret, 40/34 km/h topspeed for Tiger I/KT respectively...

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  7. - Storm states that in 99 percent of cases, branches aren't changed after the patch hits the general test, the only cases of changes are obvious errors

    So finally official announcement of what we all knew for a long time - that public tests and our feedback means absolutely fuck all.

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    1. Learn2read, it's written "branches" not "tank parameters". If tank is assigned to a wrong spot, they will change it, which happens rarely as branches are planned out a lot in advance. What public test feedback allows, is for devs to balance how fast exactly will the tank shoot, aim etc.

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  8. "- it's possible the new German medium branch will not start from the VK3002DB after all, but with VK2801 and the recon Panther - if that happens, SerB states there will be no compensations for VK3002DB XP many people collected for the Indienpanzer"

    Is this means that there will be no tier 8 scout tank (RU251) for the germans, if the med branch goes from that abomination Recon Panther?

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    1. If there will be no RU251 I will be disappointed.

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    2. The RU251 was pulled from the 8.5 patch for some odd reason.. probably it wasn't balanced to suck... or not to suck that is the question.

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    3. I knew that the RU251 will not be introduced in 0.8.5. And I'm afraid, the reason is that it will be completely scrapped, and the announcement was a big lie. The fact, that the med branch could start from the Recon Panther supports this theory in my opinion. But hey, it's WG, so no surprises.

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  9. About the No Wheel Vehicles, I think it isn't hard to implement they are too lazy to even do it. And probably want a different company aka War Thunder's Developer to do it instead of them... my two little cents on their laziness.

    So I guess this is a screw you to all the people who wanted the VK 3002 DB to be the tank to the Leopard-1. So in a sense, WG can't make up their damned minds about what they want for the GAME then they shouldn't RELEASE THE DAMNED Tech Trees if they are preliminary trees from the start, even though they are accurate enough. So in the sense they are COPYing the Chinese Tech Tree.... how annoying.

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    1. The Reason I am saying they are copying the Chinese Tech Tree, Light Tanks to Mediums.... even though there's a medium tank before the Tier 6 Light Tank.

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    2. Dude you seem to have some kind of a problem with Chinese tree :D
      Same thing is in the USA tree, friend. M5 Stuart - light, then M7 - med, then T21 - light, T71 - light, T69 - med again, and then it ends with a heavy tank, for a twist. So what? You just send the light crew to bed and grind the intermediate medium tank on a temporary (75%) crew.

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    3. I already passed the M7 Medium Tank, but the grind for the T71 is kinda ridiculous aka 60k XP. Though out of all the tanks I've played the only tank I haven't really learned altogether is the Light Variety of Tank but I've got the TD, Heavy, Medium and Artillery. Even though that's the only class I'm rusty in aka the Arty class.

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    4. Yup, T21 ain't easy to adjust to from what I hear, but at least it has a better gun than 59-16 (I played 59-16 in platoon with T21...). I agree though that LT class requires a lot of focus and cunning, you can't just stand around a corner and exchange shots with enemy like you do in heavies or heavier meds. About the cost, well: AMX 12T to AMX 13 75 is 67k XP, so it's not just the Americans ;)
      BTW M7 is nearly identical to Pz III/IV, which is one of the best tanks I played so far :)

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  10. nice rework on the maps :)

    Hajvanho

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  11. If this bull shit with the DB is true I rage quit wot.

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  12. i know how you feel, iv just grinded that much to find out they my F**K us over again, lets hope SerB is only trolling

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    1. I think SerB only trolls when he's sick and tired of all the stupid questions. Even though this is a serious question, he gave a serious answer... Which sucks in terms of so many levels.

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    2. maybe if he acted professionally and ignored stupid questions he wouldnt need to troll, then maybe he'd get some respect instead of acting like a spoiled child all the time, never have i seen a game developer act so...well like a dick pardon my french.

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    3. Dick isn't as a bad word as Asshole... but that's another topic altogether. Though I have to say, if he acted a little bit more professional than let's say the PR crap that the other departments would probably be less a shitstorm...

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    4. aye true, he seems to indecisive and when someone questions this he trolls, to bad hes like this as i would have respected him as a dev along with the other devs for finally bringing a tank game thats not just T-34s, tigers, panthers and Shermans, but alas once a troll always a troll, shame.

      Just have to wait for the test server to see whats happening.

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    5. I agree. With about the Test Server that is. Though it'll be nice to look at some of the newer tanks when they do come out expect for the Recon Panther, another tank with the Konish Tank is kinda lame...

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    6. i dont know what to make of it myself, im kinda of afraid to carry on doing the light branch, its hard enough to scout in a small tank let alone something thats almost as big as some heavies.

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    7. It's been mentioned before but SerB isn't all that bad. Russians really like such a rough form of humor and it doesn't really translate to English well. As for the 3002DB, the devs already said long ago not to grind exp on a tank until there has been an official announcement. It's the same problem as game preorders and really your own fault for making such an assumption. I don't wan't to see another shell fiasco, when someone gets an idea to profit from a bug and gets pissed off when it rightfully gets fixed.

      EU server - duboss

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    8. It'll probably be another shell fiasco sooner or later but a whole worse sooner or later..

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    9. Will you just stop whining Darkquest. It's this sort of reaction that caused Overlord to put a stop on much of the information flow to EU. Every time they tell us their 'plans' they get a whine shitstorm when they change them. Plans are like that. They're an intention at a point in time. Not set in stone.

      WG says something like "at the moment we're planning on starting the Leopard line from the Vk3002 DB, but it's subject to change". They then decide three months later "Actually we have a better idea. It will start from the light line". OMG OMG you promised us it would start from the DB ! "No we didn't." Yes you did ! "No, we told you that was our plan at that time". You promised ! "No, we didn't promise". Yes you did ! "....Sigh, whatever" (hey guys, don't tell the ungrateful, whining, pubescent, scrubs anything from now on. They can read the patch notes).
      Serb is a legend of comedy and gives far more information than many of his readers deserve.

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    10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZubCxEY80&feature=player_detailpage#t=242s
      4:20 - official, WG released WoT related video. If this is NOT a confirmation, then I wonder what is. If something IS not 100% solid, and subjected to changes, don't show that, or at least specifically say that "this is the plan for the moment". Such thig is never said in that video, so players have 100% right to assume this is a confirmation. Right now SerB seem like a spoiled child that want to only annoy as many people as he can. And I'm sick of it. And WG changes plans so much that I doubt that they have ANY coherent idea about how they want their own game to look like. And that kind of idea should be a foundation for any honest, reliable project. I always thought that WoT is that kind of project. Well apparently I was wrong.

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  13. - it's possible the new German medium branch will not start from the VK3002DB after all, but with VK2801 and the recon Panther - if that happens, SerB states there will be no compensations for VK3002DB XP many people collected for the Indienpanzer

    Okay... that would be shit. But actually I pretty enjoyed it to grind this ~105k XP at the VKDB, so it wouldn't be that much of wasted time.

    @SS
    Do I understand it right, that VK2801 and Recon Panther are in the same line? (VK2801 = T6, Recon Panther = T7)

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    1. Yes, AP will follow the VK2801

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    2. Same here, really enjoyed taking out the DB again. Turned into a nice stable credit earner while I wasn't on premium too.
      Probably have to do my first ever mass free xp transfer. Probably stick it onto conq gun or something really needed instead of skipping a tank.

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    3. If I haven't Panther/M10 then DB would be T7 MT of my choice. Really enjoyable tank. More agile than usual German mediums(T6,T7), good sloped armor and sufficient gun.

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    4. What I don't understand is how do they want the line to go WITHOUT including the 3002 DB ?
      What logical progression would it be to go only through the light line, especially when Daimler was involved in the Indien Panzer project ?

      If they don't include the 3002 DB, I'll just buy the T-44 I've unlocked since ages and forget about the Leopard 1. Nothing deserves going through the german light line in my humble opinion.

      -Slate

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  14. UTTER BS and bullcrap so the grind of vk 3002 was pointles ( tho it was fun)
    so about failowe: CAN germans pls get a T10 HT with a high pen gun, which doesnt require gold

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    1. No. Never.

      Yours sincerely

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    2. And that's why I don't grind for a new line until the public test. Consider this a lesson to be learnt. As for the question, I certainly wouldn't mind if they'd allow the 12.8cm L-61 to be equipped on a tier 10 HT.

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  15. and they try to fuck again the players who farmed with the shitty DB ... great.

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    1. Nobody said to do it in the first place... so...

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    2. The extra experience I have piled on the DB will go well the extra experience I have trapped on the Pz III/IV after they cut the connection to the SPG line.

      If the line comes from the VK2801, so what happens to Indien- Panzer? The patch is only a few weeks from going live and they still don't have the tech trees sorted out?

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    3. since they confirmed twice that the DB will be part of the new tree, it was normal to farm the 3002 as soon as posible to forget him.

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    4. They never did an official confirmation.

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    5. They probably hope that people will pay for changing their collected xp on DB to get free XP... At least I see no other good reason why not transfer their xp from elite DB to someone else.

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    6. Anon and Stieger11-

      WG posted German tech trees on their site for months that showed the three new German mediums coming off the DB.

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    7. Yeah, but those tech trees where to be taken as simple guide lines of what they are planning. They get changed pretty frequently.

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  16. I'm enjoying all the people complaining. I mean really, maybe SerB was just trolling after the probably couple dozen times the same question has been asked? Even with the NA forums we have people making new threads DAILY asking about this.

    For that matter, VK 3002 DB rocks.

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    1. You're enjoying all the people complaining about how they got screwed by WG yet again? What a jerk you are.

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    2. Because they aren't getting screwed, simple as that.

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    3. They really aren't getting screwed.

      1. It's never confirmed until the final patch notes are released. We all know that anything can change up 'til that point.
      2. Starting grinding early on a plan like this allowed a lot of us to do the daily doubles in the DB, so it wasn't that much effort.
      3. It is NOT finalised yet. All this crying and drama makes the changed tree more likely if anything. I would certainly want to make the whiners suffer, because you're repulsive.
      4. The DB is great fun to play.

      I have 90k xp on the DB. I also have 50k on the VK2. I was over the disappointment about 10 seconds after reading.

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    4. But what are people that cannot and/or don't like playing scouts supposed to do? Leopard is simply not for them? Why? To my experience you don't necessary need to know how to operate scout to be efficient medium player. Besides scouts should have their own branch as they are not for everyone and most of the higher tier scouts are just a credit sinks.

      "I would certainly want to make the fhiners suffer." - you seem like a terrible person, tbh. And if someone here IS repulsive it is you, for saying such things.

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  17. they fuck me now 2 times
    first with xp 4 Stug E100 on ferdinant
    now with xp grind at Db 4 Indien panzer

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    1. If I remember correctly XP from Ferdinand was transferred to Jagdtiger.

      But i had hard way to Panther 2 :-) Tech tree was changed 3 times before I get there. First I had to grind xp for some T6 VK on PZIV. When I was 1k before reaching it, they changed tree and I needed another VK so I had to start collect xp for another VK. Then another change and I had to start again from PZ38 :-)

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  18. will komarin and swamp come back in 8.5 because in the last time i didnt hear something about this maps

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  19. God may this thing about the VK 3002DB be a simply troll with my heart (:D:D:D) cuz' I barely got all modules and now that 90k XP left to collect is simply killing me!
    The tank is simply horrible...

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    1. agree man,and i played it before the gold ammo and the 150pen buff... it was the worst tier 7 without doubt. Now its playable with gold ammo, but still a pain

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    2. Sorry to dissapoint you Sainz but I play mine w/o gold ammo and got an average of 1300 dmg per battle.So it's playable even without gold ammo.
      To be honest, I enjoy this tank more than other tier 7 meds.

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    3. well alex, then you are unique, good for you if you enjoyed the 3002db, because i suffered with it; lots of rrage quits, i had 30% wins with that tank in 200 battles... it destroyed my stats.

      later i played with panther, t43 and kv13, and they were all easy to play, and even fun (the 43 was a pain without the top gun).

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    4. Offtopic:
      Maybe it's just a tank you can't play well with it.Every one has those kind of tank.Me for example...I couldn't play well the m7, kv-2 and T-150.

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    5. Never really liked the DB, always prefered my
      Panther with the 88mm.
      Only carrying 6 premium rounds with me for bad times.

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    6. I liked 3002DB even before premium shells for credits change. It is fine tank. I bought it again when it has 50% discount to stack up 100k xp for new tanks and it was collected quite quickly. I like this tank more than Panther, T20 or T-43. When I compare it to panther, there is probably only 2 things that has panther better - 7,5cm L/100 and 20 more hp (not sure about number). But 7,5cm /L70 is quite sufficient for this tier (for MT) and DB have allready more hp that allmost half of T7 heavy tanks.

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  20. I'm 90% sure Serb is just trolling...test-server is almost opened (not this week but surely the next one) and the tanks proposed for DB branch are already supertested/were supertested.
    Also...the only way they could fuck it would mean they should force the tier of VK2000, DW and VK 3002 v1 with 1 more tier( like the french LT branch) and that will entirely fuck up the branch leaving 2 nerfed tanks and a clone of the 3002 with just a 'v1' after its name.

    Frank, is there anyway you can find if there've been change in the s-test on the german branch?...just to be sure...

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    1. ^youve spoken to the SP. at least shed some light on what they told you about the tech tree...

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    2. No. If I disregard the fact I posted I wouldn't share any more "own" leaks (everything from last two days were reposts from Russian and other sites), supertest doesn't have trees - tanks are simply added, but the trees aren't changed.

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    3. Ah...didn't knew they don't change the trees aswell.
      Anyway...around 1 week and a half till they release the common test...we'll see than.

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  21. Lol, so if this is true, where could the DB lead?

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    1. Dead end, like the KV-13 is. Maybe they change it later :/

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  22. This Failowe thing looks exactly like a leichte löwe, right? And the schwere Löwe is our Premium t8 right now, right?
    So why should they take a t8 tank (leichte löwe), improve its stats and make it t10 (failöwe). And why should they take a t8 premium (löwe) and make it a t9 (schwere löwe)? That will mean years of whining...

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    1. Wrong. There was no Leichte is rear and Schwere is center forward classification. Both had rear turrets considered.

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  23. Argh, the Russian medium is still a long way away. I really want a premium Russian medium tank to compliment my T-34-85 and T-54.

    The news of an American premium TD is good, can use that to further train my M18 Hellcat and T110E4 crews... probably have to wait forever for it as though :(

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  24. - it's possible the new German medium branch will not start from the VK3002DB after all, but with VK2801 and the recon Panther - if that happens, SerB states there will be no compensations for VK3002DB XP many people collected for the Indienpanzer


    I just read in the official forums that this answer has been deleted in russ. Q&A Thread. Can u confirm that SS?

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    1. *shrugs* Possible, I don't have time or means to check if old answers get changed after some time, I translate what is there at that very moment (in this case, last night, around 10PM).

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    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZubCxEY80&feature=player_detailpage#t=242s

      "If you open the full german techtree.... you will see the Indienpanzer after VK3002DB.... also developed by Daimer-Benz. Maybe these tanks will share some modules..."

      Or maybe not...

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    3. Well, maybe SerB has gone too far with his trolling on that one and some higher instance deleted it (Storm?)
      Sorry SS, if i ask you too much, i would look it up myself if i could...

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  25. Well....not going the DB line is just cementing what I already thought I would do regarding the game. As in spend my money on a Dora pack in War Thunder. When you get more pissed off than have fun it's time to move on.

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  26. Regarding these map changes(particulary picture 4) they removed that passive scouting bush on Campinovka???? Damn they

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    1. Guess, they didn't want people camp scouting... lol

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  27. "it's possible the new German medium branch will not start from the VK3002DB after all, but with VK2801 and the recon Panther - if that happens, SerB states there will be no compensations for VK3002DB XP many people collected for the Indienpanzer"

    Okay, if that's true, I'm getting a company, buying a bunch of Kalashnikovs and going for WG HQ, who's with me?

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    1. It's called not farming a tank until it's guaranteed to be the link to the new tanks... That's why I've waited.

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    2. Yeah, no official quarantee. But they showed us a techtree and talked about it in their videos. Also how does this differ from the time they moved xp from Ferdi to JT...

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  28. DB is the first tank that I started grind before they released a test server. But then again I also bought something (shells) for the first time to make credits on it before the patch.

    As for people who say Serb is only trolling. Yes, he might be, BUT...

    See what happens with a newly released trees. They are a mix of classes just to make people use gold to retrain their crew, also drop skills and perks as you can do with certain skills in the same class even when you change tank, but different classes do require to have different skills.

    So before you think he trolls just imagine VK2801 going into a med DB v1 then going into light again at tier 8, then 9 and 10 meds. And regular DB is bumped a tier up, before it comes light tank, and after it tier 9 heavy and tier 10 failowe.

    Is it retarded? Yes it is. Can it happen? Look at WG and tell me with all honesty it can't.

    Lately everything is about profit without regard for the players (like tanks in which you need to grind almost every module before you can mount a gun - conqueror, just 8kg short to be able to mount a gun without tracks). WG isn't a charity, but that kind of behaviour (against customers) in a modern economy is short sighted and is similar to shooting yourself in a foot before a marathon.

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  29. For me the most strage is that:
    - freshly unlocked (NOT bought in garage) stock vehicles get better MM for a few battles (unclear how many) (SS: I thought this was cancelled long time ago, wtf?)

    Yeah really WTF? WG just confirmed that there is special kind of MM for stock vehicles, and who knows for what else. This is actually one of the proofes that MM is rigged and the whole game is manipulated, which was btw described in countless threads in forums - zero hits, "random" penetration and damage throws, MM fails, long series of win/lose, "random" map draws.

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    1. SerB never said he in not manipulating players, he actually admited it http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/02/the-real-reason-for-ghost-shells.html
      lololol

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    2. This may be active on the Russian server. It certainly isn't active on the EU server. They tried it and disabled it some time ago due to battle load queues.
      You'll have to find a new conspiracy theory.

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    3. You call it "conspiracy theory", I call it business. WG is not stupid, averaging all players has two consequences: 1) there will never be bad players who leave the game in frustration 2) grinding is longer and tougher. Both points make WG richer with our money.

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  30. Nice that you said a couple of weeks ago that the Leopard will start with the VK-DB and now you just write here something like "Well we were just kidding, it won't start with the DB. Sorry for you driving the DB to get XP but life sucks, haha!"

    Fuck you wargaming. Never seen a developer team that treats his players so badly.
    Just the same with premium tanks. You design good premium tanks and when everyone has bought one for lots of money, you just nerf these tanks and start laughing about all the poor guys who have wasted their money....


    If Leopard won't start with the DB I'll also quit this game. You've given enough reasons already for all your veteran players to leave...

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  31. Maybe the VKDB thing will be their Aprils fool. Combined with "Trees don't change once in test" and the testserver maybe starting on april 1st.

    On the other hand this is what I feared since there was no T8 after the Aufklärungspanther. Also this would be too elaborate for WG.

    And to all people who say you shouldn't have collected the XP before official statements: In the wiki, linked on the official WOT website there was a Techtree for some time which contained the Leopard Tree starting from VKDB. So there was an official statement. Which they chnaged later.

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    1. They even confirmed it a couple of weeks ago in a blog that the line will definitely start with the VK-DB...

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  32. This is from a private message on the forums with The_Chieftain early January this year.

    meirzin
    Sent: Jan 03 2013 - 15:34
    Chief, on the side, is it true that you get preferred matchmaking in your early games in a tank? I don't believe so but someone is convinced it is true...

    The_Chieftain
    Sent: Jan 03 2013 - 15:37
    Last I heard, you did for your first ten games.

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  33. New line from the VK2801? Seriously, why force people to play scouts to get to the mediums? I'll never understand that, especially because scouts are tanks for a very limited group of players that actually enjoy scouting, you don't necessary need to know how to scout to play high tier meds, and high tier scouts are an impressive credit sink. But knowing how WG treats German tree and knowing it comes from SerB, we can basically take it as a official confirmation.
    After all would it be too hard to make new med line accessible from BOTH VK3002DB AND VK2801? Best of both world SerB, best of both worlds. Please, learn to treat your community fair.
    Right now WG utterly uses its position as a monopolist to basically ignore their fanbase and community, and do things their way and their way only. It works for now, but when finally a competitive product will start, WG will be in serious trouble, as loosing fanbase is easy, reclaiming it though - not so much. Best thing that can happen to WoT is a competition, tbh. It always leads to improvement of quality. On the other hand if competition arrives too late, WG might earn so much money in the meantime that they would no longer care about it.

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  34. This DOMIN guy is a scammer. You've been warned.

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