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May 24, 2013

What Russians think of EU players....

Source: http://world-of-kwg.livejournal.com/197077.html

Well, this won't be a translation, more like a comentary from me. This article came out on the developer blog (that alone counts for something I guess) and its original title is "Europeans are so stuuuuuuupid....". The author is probably not a WG employee - sometimes, players post stuff on the developer blog too (usually it's moaning about this and that, recently, it was for example yet another variation of "gief skill MM").

A few notes from the article then:

- apparently, there is a "legend" on RU server that EU players are bad. I played a few battles on RU servers (just for the heck of it) until like tier 4 and I was not impressed, it was absolutely the same. Hm... maybe the difference kicks in on later tiers? Somehow I doubt that. More aggressive, yes, that's for certain.


- the Russian author actually states that one of the social/game aspects of the server is that in the EU, mentally challenged (as in, clinically retarded) people play, because even they can afford a computer (apparently, unlike in Russia). This also goes for physically disabled people too. In other words, according to the Russian player, a defining aspect of EU server is that we have mentally disabled people playing and they don't. *shrugs* The author also sort of blames the overall game quality on the fact that even very slow people with physical disabilities can play. As an example, he gives a deaf person.

- the author also observes that (apparently, unlike in Russia), a lot of elderly people play WoT on EU server. Personal observation: maybe this is where the Russian gameplay aggressivity comes from - since their playerbase is allegedly somewhat younger. With that being said, I find it strange that a few sentences after this, the author actually bothers to bring up very young players (kids) as a factor... odd

As a conclusion of this part, the author states that instead of "lol, retards play on EU server", the Russians should think about the fate of disabled people in Russia. Now, I know practically nothing of Russian healthcare, but judging from this comment, their social system must be appalling.

- another observation the Russian player makes is that in general, EU adult players have less free time than RU players, but they have more money to spend. Well, this is obvious, EU server is allegedly the "milk cow" for Wargaming, where a lot of profit comes from (definitely more per capita than from Russia). A bit offtopic: you all probably know what I think of EU community staff, but we all must admit that pre 0.8.6, the communication improved significantly, with new info being revealed in english several times a week, nicely in advance. Whether this was truly a Wargaming goodwill or simply a virtue of necessity, forced by the fact the supertesters would leak everything anyway in advance, well... that's another thing.

- the author also observes that on EU server, it's common to see many hightier vehicles in randoms on the day of their introduction, reflecting the fact that a lot of people simply buys free XP. Apparently, it is not so on Russian server.

- the author also notices anti-Russian stereotypes (that players react aggressively on azbuka in chat) - this is obviously the result of the fact that three biggest WoT communities are the Polish, the Germans and the Czechoslovaks, neither of which are very fond of Russians, with Polish and Czechoslovaks being very aggressive towards them (for obvious historical reasons). Nations with more positive attitude towards Russians, such as the Bulgarians are not as common in WoT.

- the author also notices that while a bit isolated and sometimes ridiculed, the Polish are doing very well in the game and the legend of all of them being noobs ("Siemka" is mentioned) is false. It is my impression from the article that the Russian legends of low quality EU hightier battles are considered as false also.

265 comments:

  1. Read the comments. Everyone ridicule the author.

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    1. Some do, some don't. Still, the fact such stuff comes out on developer blog is... odd. Some of the observations are correct tho.

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    2. Well, the author tried to debunk the stereotype that if you want an easy "нагиб", you should go play on euro server, because the meta is that much slower and less aggressive there. And he failed to do so with the points he brought up. So the article went pretty much like: "yeah, it's easier to play there, but guys, there are a lot of old / handicapped players there, they have an excuse." Like what? What it has to do with anything?

      As for the difference, it kicks in in the high tiers, on RU2/RU1 in the prime time, when all the clans and good players go for x2. The games are stacked with 55+ and lots of platoons.

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    3. >Some do, some don't. Still, the fact such stuff comes out on developer blog is... odd. Some of the observations are correct tho.

      Slava Makarov (one of the higher WG executives and a creator and moderator of the world-of-kwg LJ community) is very fond of approving some stupid shit to create a local shitstorm in the community.

      So it is a joke.

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    4. I'd say that was a case of intentional "ракование", sort of trolling by posting something ridiculous or useless.

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    5. Yep.

      The same here, actually, because OP totally missed the point and mistranslated the article.

      Все обосрались.

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  2. Idiots are everywhere, i've never seen a game without them

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  3. I have too agree that the EU server has a lot of bad players.

    Still,at least on the Test Server,Russian players don't seem to bright either.
    At every 2-3 battles I see EU players killed by Russian team mates,also many times Russian players don't seem to actually know what they are supposed to do in the game.
    Also,they refuse to speak English,which greatly damage the communication between team mates.

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    1. *too
      **VladPomar

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    2. lol, test server. Half of the players there go to the test server to buy the high tier tanks they never even got close to on the main server.

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    3. Happend to me many times on EU server, your even worse off on test server if your from the NA server.

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    4. @ VladPomar

      If you don't have anything constructive and worth reading, please stay away from posting on this page.

      Thanks.

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    5. "If you don't have anything constructive and worth reading, please stay away from posting on this page."

      Proposing counterarguments and valid observations is nothing constructive? You are either politician or your opinions seriously blinded your judgement.

      If you don't have anything constructive and worth reading, please stay away from posting on this page.

      Thanks. ;)

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    6. "If you don't have anything constructive and worth reading, please stay away from posting on this page."

      I have the right to express my opinions even if you find them constructive or not.
      Besides,I explained what is my experience with the Russian players,what I find bad about them and that I don't like the EU player base either.
      Anyway,far more constructive than your comment.


      VladPomar

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  4. well, what to say. in the first place why did you even bothered to translate such an article. in the second place I really do not care what RU players think. and supposedly being a part of the hate community I have nothing against RU players neither RU people.
    alexfyxodef EU

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  5. I propose a war IRL to settle this. It would be called "3rd world war" and oppose EU vs Russia.

    Don't let the smart people win, support this idea !

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    1. Hur hur, nukes that go boom. Me supports.

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    2. and then usa nukes the one who lose and kills thousands of civilians :)

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    3. Better a few thousand then a few million.

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    4. Oh, I thought only evil pinkos justified genocide...

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    5. "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
      Albert Einstein

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    6. We should first nuke the americans then each other.

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  6. Russian Clan players say EU clans are horrible, best EU clans = above average RU. There was time when RU clans would register at EU and "steal" prize money from events/tournaments.

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    1. True. Check the Euro league, 3 out of 4 teams on top are Russian.
      As for the most guys from 322, UNICA or PTS - they would have hard time getting into RU clans like TOP-A or OLENI
      http://noobmeter.com/clanTop/ru/PR/
      http://noobmeter.com/clanTop/eu/PR/

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    2. IDEAL is clearly on par with top RU clans, what's your point? It's natural RU has more pro-players, they have more players in general.

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    3. It's not. Please note that all the ratings depend on a server, these are not absolute values.
      For example, if you have 15 opponents, 100 hps each, you can get 1500 dmg per game, max, if you do the job of your team on your own. Say, these 15 are EU players, it's easier to farm dmg and xp on those noobs>better ratings.
      On RU, to get the same rating, you need to fight tougher opponents AND compete for dmg and xp with some of your teammates. So PR1000 on RU is harder to get than PR1000 on EU yet still top RU clans outperform EU clans.
      Platoon games are so easy on EU thats basically seal clubbing, three decent players destroy the opposing team on their own, no need for teammates help. Solo play tho is different, maintaining decent WR is hard due to necessity of carrying EU noobs to victory every game.

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    4. "Platoon games are so easy on EU thats basically seal clubbing, three decent players destroy the opposing team on their own, no need for teammates help."

      Myths, myths and myths again.

      Of course looking at various YouTube videos you may see that three guys killed 15 enemies, but you forgot that:
      • coordination in platoon game is much easier so players get some bonuses from internal communication, impossible for random players;
      • noone posts all their games, only unique are posted, so even three players platooning often don't have such results;
      • kill doesn't mean "levelling from 100% to 0 HP". Someone had to make these enemies weaker and in most cases other teammates done that;
      • some famous videos of "three killing fifteen" are platoons on overpowered vehicles - platoon of three VI tier tanks opposing mostly tier IV tanks can wipe out most of enemies with one shot - in most cases enemy can detrack them only.

      Last but not least - to have unique achievements you have to have some luck. In most cases a lot of luck, skills are secondary.

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    5. I saw that clan playing and they are typical EU server noobs as descriped in the Russian post. Get in a bush, spaming gold at the middle of an enemy, dying to arty like a zombie, posing "My daddy rapes me twice the day, check my stats, arty OP" to the forum. Basicly act like a red player and use use premium options massively.

      This arty stuff is pretty useful to find people who will need at least more months to l2p. Just look for noobs complaining about it. As a decent EU player you really should hate these noob clans who screw your reputation.

      PS: Considering the fact that that noob clan plays triple platoon only their values are like 40-48% WR and <<800 ER for people playing only solo

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  7. Haha seriously, it's like looking in a panoramic, red-colored (:P) mirror: Russian turd talking shit about European turds. It's usually the other way around in the EU forums (obviously), so it's rather amusing...

    What would any professional progamerer say in our forums? "Russian drunkards can only TK, poor people living in igloos... Those commies can't even understand teamwork". So... yeah, hilarious.

    Thankfully, as the Anon above points out, some other users contradicted the author, just like we would see in our own forums.
    Our world is not that hopeless after all :)

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  8. That means that that for the average active player they made roughly the following per month..
    $4.64 - Russian Server
    $6.90 - European server
    $16.94 - U.S Server
    $3.21 - Sea Server
    source:
    http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/238588-wargaming-revenue-breakdown/

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  9. well, its partly right, average player on any f2p game is always bad, and i dont know why but everyone wants to rush t10 without learning the basics.

    also the low quality high tier battles its the same, you can play it if you can afford it(or grind with lows), no minimun skill required since they can keep playing even losing massive ammounts of credits, and the opposite, no matter how good you play, you will lose credits in high tier with standard account.

    PS.- all cheating addons(3d skins,laser...) come from...

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    1. "...I dont know why but everyone wants to rush t10 without learning the basics."
      Because of minority complex.

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  10. One does not need sound to play world of tanks. One only needs a decent pair of eyes. I have played WoT with the sound off and you don't miss much.

    NEMO.

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    1. You can't play CW without hearing

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  11. just look at the top win rates for players with over 300 battles/vehicle at wot-news.com

    in almost every vehicle the russian server has a higher winrate than the EU server, in most cases the US server has higher winrates too.

    its also interesting that the SEA server is almost every time around 10% behind the others

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    1. For every winner there's a loser. A larger standard deviation on RU server would suggest that their retards are worse than ours, making it easier for better players to win games.
      To be honest, there are so many factors involved it's unlikely that you can rationally compare stats between two sealed populations. The only way of finding out is to combine the servers.

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    2. Win rates over 100-200k games, for a server, mean little in the end. As Knobby said the variables that control if it is a win or loss are too high to make it useful for a comparison.

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    3. Also the distribution of battles is not even too. So the wins are concetrated on other tanks... others get lower because more play them, the likes we have on german tanks, they have it on russians.

      I don't think there is really that much differences in top player skills, but the latest time I heard of... russians are favoured over other nations teams, giving them time + language advantage and some mods which aren't allowed by others, but that was 6 months ago! So things might have changed, might. I have no first hand information, thus making it invalid by itself.

      I should start looking for tournaments being held now to see how things are done...

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  12. good god what has wg unleashed when they created a game that involves killing, tanks and real nations. the combination of those 3 is too much for the average young player which leads to articles like that.

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  13. Here's a EU review from Ru player:
    Even our 45% noobs are smarter than these retards. Mimimap does not exist for them apriori. Base being captured or not - does not matter. Damage and frags are not valued at EU.
    Another one:
    Made a goddamn twink there. Tnak destroyer lv3, constant battles against 4-5 KV-1, our tops are either AFK or worse than bots. Or green retard will shoot me in my open TD with HE "I did it just for fun! Want some more?". Civilized europeans.

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  14. It's probably true that there's a wider age demographic on EU servers. Partially it's a function of average wealth, so younger ages can afford decent PCs and a bit of gold. Partially it's because many 40s and 50s grew up during the personal computer revolution (ZX Spectrum and BBC PCs anyone ?).
    EU would play more aggressively in randoms if there was a common language allowing a bit more reliable collaboration on tactics. For me, it would be a bit boring if the only answer was to charge and blast, but maybe that's because I'm old :)

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    1. Yepp, ZX Spectrum and 48 years old :)

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    2. A lot of Russians grew up playing ZX Spectrum (well, Soviet clones of it) as well. Not only 40+, because Spectrum remained popular even in 1990s (Russia was quite poor during the "chaotic nineties").

      I think that it is a safe bet that a great deal of Russian WoT players knows Laser Squad and similar games.

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  15. the barbaric slavs hoard, with their low I.Q and tainted DNA claims that their stupidness is somewhat less then other peoples. WoW i'm impressed by the wisdom of this great author... comeone man!

    what are you 16 years old frank?

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    1. Frank is a reporter. Yes...he reports what he finds written elsewhere. He wasn't the author of the original views. Comprendez ? What are you ...14 years old ?

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    2. nevermind the cynicism in your post, you should know ruskies aren't only slavs and they don't like being called barbaric hordes

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    3. Hey Frank, you get upset when people badmouths Israel but are you fine with these Nazis?

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    4. A Russian and a Nazi are two different things. Just ask the Russians and the Nazis, they will confirm.

      NEMO.

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    5. I was talking about the idiot above who called Russians barbaric hoards with flawed DNA.

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    6. "the barbaric slavs hoard, with their low I.Q and tainted DNA claims that their stupidness is somewhat less then other peoples"

      That one made me giggle

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    7. Someone is jealous of everything the barbaric hordes have, no? What tiny shit stain nation do you hail from?

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    8. "Someone is jealous of everything the barbaric hordes have, no? What tiny shit stain nation do you hail from?"

      What are we supposed to be jealous of? Lack of democracy? Corruption? Siberian winters? Unreadable alphabet? Delusions of grandeur? Space program so bad that every second satellite or rocket just malfunctions?

      Maybe we are stained, but still not as stained as a nation who created the only ideology who killed more people than Nazis. And shitty nations? Oh yeah, keep dreaming, man...

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    9. Hey russians, if you're not inferior to Europeans then why are you so poor? Why is your standard of living so bad, why don't you have freedom of speech (remember Anna Politkovskaya), why do you have huge AIDS epidemic, why is your life expectancy so low, why do you have the highest suicide rates in the world? You know, I think there's a lot of intelligent Russians - they're the ones who kill themselves, because they can't stand living in such a terrifying shithole. Stop blaming EU/USA/Jews for your pathetic lives, YOU are the reason why your county is so primitive.

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    10. ROFL seriously, you guys are no better than those Russian turds insulting us... grow up and stop your personal "my country is better" competition.

      To the last Anon: were you raped by a Russian as a child or something? Sheesh, you got an issue...

      хеитерс гонна хеит ;)

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    11. LOL @ " Unreadable alphabet" - I can read russian (a bit, but still) even though I'm Polish - problem anon? Your own ignorance is not a Russian problem, y'know? :D


      хеитерс гонна хеит!

      orzel286_EU

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  16. Every time I've played on a test server the Europeans act like normal pubs, and I usually see the Russians just rush in and die, or team kill their own team.

    I play on the NA server.

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  17. I use azbuka now and then on EU servers and I haven't had any trouble by now...

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    1. Once I got called a Jew (lol) for writing in cyrillic, but yeah most of the time its cool.

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  18. "Here's a EU review from Ru player:
    Even our 45% noobs are smarter than these retards. Mimimap does not exist for them apriori. Base being captured or not - does not matter. Damage and frags are not valued at EU.
    Another one:
    Made a goddamn twink there. Tnak destroyer lv3, constant battles against 4-5 KV-1, our tops are either AFK or worse than bots. Or green retard will shoot me in my open TD with HE "I did it just for fun! Want some more?". Civilized europeans. "

    Sounds about right tbh. I dunno why your all being so indignant I feel lucky if there one other player on my team that any good/has basic understanding of map tactics. So that leaves what 90%+ are muppets.

    I'm sure there are some good Polish players but I dread seeing PL or Slavic zcy name in my team.

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  19. i alwayes teamkill ruskies

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    1. I always teamkill idiots who teamkilled someone else.

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    2. I always teamkill idiots who teamkilled someone else who teamkilled someone else.

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    3. The best thing is when I manage to kill even the like of you and still manage to shoot a pair of shells against the red team.

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    4. Just a lil part in europe, but mentally all asians

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    5. Your point being that Asians are inferior?

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  20. I am a NA player, the only think I know about RU is I saw aloooooooots of damn stupid RU players on the test server.
    I understand nobody taking the test server serious, me neither, but EU players seems apparently more intelligent than RU players.

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    1. I will sign that but maybe they just send their retarded teamkillers on the beta server to fuck up the whole purpose.

      All in all i give a damn about russians and i am glad we don´t have the same server to play on.
      Hard enough that we have to accept the polish "siema" kids; not able to learn english and sadly often not willing to play for the team.

      So whatever this author is writing up has no real impact.....

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  21. Yes I am rubbish player but I don't have to queue for turnips! :p

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  22. "Troops around Arnhem and Nijmegen are 2nd class,consisting of old men and children..."

    Steiner011

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  24. avg WN7 serverwide according to wotlabs.net :

    NA: 802 (O_O)
    EU: 957
    SEA: 872

    No data for RU sadly

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    1. Oh so that mean we(NA) are even worst than seatards, thats sad...

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    2. 02:46 anon

      Nah, that doesn't mean what you said.
      The most thing that affect this overall-stats are the people mass.

      Good players are very few in a community.
      Having a low populated server like NA means that the good player base is very small, thus having a 800 wn7.

      On the other hand, the ruskies got almost 1 mil players, so the good player-base is bigger, meaning they got higher overall stats which is true.

      Yeah, now someone will come to argue with me that if the playerbase is bigger the amount of retards is also bigger.Thats true, but, when there are more good players the retards affect the game less.

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    3. @Alex:

      your logic ... facepalm

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    4. @Folterknecht

      Whats so hard to understand?

      A small playerbase has few good players and mostly idiots.
      A bigger playerbase has linear amount of idiots(so still most of the players are idiots) but also a bigger amount of good players.
      Since the idiots remain idiots, unable to be worse than they are, the good players in a bigger number influence the playerbase more.

      An you can see that on ratings overall.
      Which playerbase got the biggest ratings? Ruskies.
      Which playerbase got the lowest ratings? Americans.

      Now, which server got the most players? RU
      And which server got the least players? NA

      Still face-palm logic?

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    5. Yes, because the bad players don't increase linear, but exponential. There's your fault.

      In other words: The bigger your community gets, the smaller the percentage of good players will be.

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    6. @Alex:

      go back to primary school u fucking moron. You are constantly mixing up % and absolut numbers and compare them to each other ...

      and I dont have numbers for RU server

      what a braindead monkey

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  25. Well what "Russians" consider as Mentally challenged here in EU thats a defacto standard in Russia, there its juts called "Normal"

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    1. You just became a level 100 Xenophobe, congrats!

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  26. The guy that wrote this post doesn't play on RU server, he's a EU player from former RT clan. The guy has no clue about RU.
    As for the legends...EU is a lot worse than RU in every aspect except for civilized chat but I would prefer RU "shkolota" player over typical EU player as a teammate.
    I play both EU and RU at 2000+ PR, 60+ WR accounts, and I play solo only on EU, tier6-10 tanks, it gets worse at tier10, not better - harder to carry 14 retards to victory due to hp/dmg ratio and 5 arties.

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  27. Mentally challenged on EU? o_O WDF

    So what kind of things would the author see if he pokes in NA and APAC(SEA) server? Amoebas for NA and single celled organisms for APAC most probably HAHAHA! XD

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  28. maybe i should move to the Russian server, my friends and clan tell me i play way too aggressively for the SEA (soon to be Asia Pacific) server lol

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  29. "Europeans are so stuuuuuuupid...."

    Russians aren't really Europeans? =/

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    1. Just a lil part in europe, but mentally all asians

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    2. The definition is everything west of of the Ural Mountains are considered to be Europe.

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    3. Anon 08:25
      Not only "a lil part" live in europe side.
      Most of them leave on the european side because the life conditions in the asian side are very shitty with those temperatures and isolation of technology developed on the european side.

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  30. Say, SS, I'm a russian and i know that
    1) the author in fact isn't russian, he's from ukraine
    2) he's a retard, politically speaking

    After that i have to say that i DO NOT think the EU-servers are retarded or the EU-players are somehow weaker. In fact, if i didn't spend that much cash on the RU acc i might have made myself an EU acc since i don't like playing with any kind of russian player-base, and try not to disclose that i am in fact russian.

    Most of the stuff you said about social system - is in fact true, since it pretty much sucks to be disabled in any way down here. So that's why i have a question for you - are you european or american?

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    1. "i don't like playing with any kind of russian player-base, and try not to disclose that i am in fact russian."

      Hahaha, I have exactly the same with Poles :) And not only in WoT. When there are games with Polish server I prefer to choose British or English European server.

      By the way SilentStalker (Frank Davis) is Czech.

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    2. Isn't it obvious already that SS is Czech?

      Well, I thought it was quite obvious, but I could be wrong. He's mentioned it multiple times in the past.

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    3. Dead_Skin_Mask,

      Sadly this applies not only to WoT, but also to life in general. My recent experiences on a trip to Hannover shows that some nation is still very far from being European. Economically strong, but intellectually lacking. Btw in Germany pretending to be English does not get you much advantage ;-) It might take a couple of generations to reduce number of racists pricks.

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  31. Well, the guy obviously played on the RU server. These idiots there make battles feel like your own team is the enemy and not the red one. I played quite a number of games and need to observe the oddity that people are getting worse over time (either with a kept account or with their new one created for easy "unicum" status). Usually people get better over practice... f.e. when I played arty a year ago people always stopped the T-50-2 which even was harder to stop then... Now they just ignore it, bang arty dead before firing a shot...

    I am absolutely sure that there are lots of people on the EU server which couldn't effort 65€ for other games or unzip a map into the game folder which was fortunate for the decent players of the concerned game. Not even to mention how much the decent people benefit from the idiots being too stupid to install IRC.

    There are quite a number of some random battle only clans only created to farm statistics which don't leave any impression except doubts of the holocaust.

    Obviously there are good and useful people on the EU server, but the percentage simpy is so painfully small. Absolutely worst battles are highest tiers where the majority does worse than true beginners, f.e. like arty is supposed to be so overpowered in their mis-assumptions, but strangely they play so that they are very easy to hit for arty...

    While Russian players make something happening together some EU idiot camps 12 minutes in the own base spaming "check my stats". Stupid people adore the "unicum" while only few ones realize the obvious: unable to do teamplay in a team game -> Noob4ever

    PS: It really is a shame that the retards on EU are failing so hard that this easy game is all about who gets more failure of these easy things implemented in the own team

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    1. Forgot to mention one more thing. Taking that WN rating, it's creators or the way how it is created serious is another case of nubity 10 times worse than anything finable in 65€ games...

      It is common that noobs ignore the objective, but winning the game by objective, that not being rewarded and that being the main ad feature really shows a unique lack of braincells.

      Addionally the table of that WN rating shows that it is made to be easier farmed than efficiency... One killing shot grants more points than 3-6 shots making that target killable -> more broken than the 7.4 patch

      It's quite the same like heavies or mediums playing like TDs instead of doing their role so that the good position is blocked for the true TD.

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    2. They were REDs for sooo long that now they have their priorities inverted ;) .

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  32. i was playing on ru server too , everything on marketplace cheaper, But all players are more aggresive a lot more, i mean you can see 5 tank rushing to buildings at malinovka.
    Also I live in turkey and i have better ping on ru servers, I would play on ru server if i knew english.

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  33. Ex-EuSupertester here:)

    Well, back then i had to make a new account on RU to test the Sexton.

    I have only 50battles on my RU account, but due to the fact that i tested an arty i was able to view the entire battlefield:

    1. Russian players play too aggressive. You'll see lots of A20 ramming heavy tanks like KV-1.

    2. In about ~25 battles i had the chance to see some top tier heavy that camps the entire battle near his own base. When the battle is almost over he moves.

    3. Ramming, team damage, provoking.

    True, you get stuff like this on EU too, but not so often.
    (PS. i played on clusters 1 and 3)

    I hope I'll never have to play on RU again.

    Oh, and BTW, Sexton was op as hell :) got 2 top guns in it and i'm not even an arty player on EU (less than 100 arty battles)...

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    1. Im curious, how you can create acc on RU server, when I tried I was denied and pointed to eu server. I tried to get via some proxy site but apparently it wasn't good too

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    2. http://worldoftanks.ru/ and when you are warned that you're on the wrong site just chose "stay on russian website" or something like that. After that you can create a RU account

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    3. works like charm, ty

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    4. "2. In about ~25 battles i had the chance to see some top tier heavy that camps the entire battle near his own base. When the battle is almost over he moves."

      That's called base defense and this is something EU players should learn about. Usually not done by top tiers, but it depends on the class of tank (sniper/brawler).

      In majority of games I played on EU server, the base and arty was simply left without any organized defense (maybe one TD would stay to camp).

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    5. Yeah, but the ones camping were KV-1 and the one pushing just A20....Oh, and the a20 crowd was just ramming anything they could find...

      One more thing:
      Let's take by example Prokhorovka. There were LOTS of tanks just rushing through the middle of the map not giving a shit about our flanks....

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  34. And this is true. Yesterday 3 of 4 games in tier 10 was totaly disaster becouse half team is filled with 43-46% with 400-600 eff. 1/3 tier 10-9 tanks doing 0 dmg or 0-400 (1 shot). Tell me how posible with T54E1 in 601 game kill 91 tanks and have survive rate of 6%? Eu playrbase suck and everybody knows this. Retards skipp all tier2-7 and play only with prem tier8 tanks, like Lowe rush per center field in malinovka omg. What you can do, when your all idiots die at base in malinovka? I didnt saw this 1-1,5 yers ago that stuff, now you have up to half team retards zombies who cant see that enemy tank behind him. They have no basic logic at all.

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    1. Funny fact: I have played >11k battles on EU server and I have never seen any Löwe rush over the Malinovka field. Not once.

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    2. "Tell me how posible with T54E1 in 601 game kill 91 tanks and have survive rate of 6%?"

      It's simple - he grinded to this T54E1 with bot and started to play just recently. Yesterday in three battles I've met players with efficiency 1. Yes, efficiency one.

      Such morons will ruin every game because they have they dreamed tank and have no f***ing idea about the game. With 2-3 such retards you may carry game but when team has 5-7 such idiots you have no chance to win.

      In fact we are a little bit responsible for this mess because bot players are rarely reported. When I ask teammates for reporting, I receive maybe one or two responses.

      I hope WG will do something with bots because it's really annoying loosing 15-20 games in a row when team has in fact 5 players fighting against 10-15 enemies.

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    3. Yeah, I personally know players who run WoT as screensaver at work. I.e. start the battle and just see how it unfolds, without taking any action. Gives them some "free" XP and bumps their battlecount... :(

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  35. quote: "Nations with more positive attitude towards Russians, such as the Bulgarians"

    say what now?! how come Bulgaria is a EU member since 2007 if they're (in your view) "pro russian"

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    1. Having the same alphabet and stuff. Some people even miss the old regime. Democracy brought nothing good to Bulgaria.

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    2. What do the two things have to do with each other? I don't mean obviously politically, Bulgaria is a good an European country as any other, but during my stay there, I noticed that the attitude towards Russians is actually relatively positive, unlike for example in Poland or Czech republic. I believe it's deeply historical - after all, it was the Russian, who helped Bulgaria get free of the Ottoman turks.

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    3. EU is more socialist than USSR, so that does not prove anything ;p

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    4. Poland have very long history of Russian invasions (also German :)). Czech and Hungary for example were invaded for real during communism. I'm not sure about Bulgaria if they had such events too.

      Personally, I like Russian people, I just don't like their politics and their politicians.

      But hey, I have sticky on my car: "I love my country... it is the government I'm afraid of" ;)

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  36. on Russian servers, profanity and insults in the chat is in order

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  37. I played some high-tier battles on RU on the ST (long ago), and all I can say is "lol". Just please, next time there's a test server, look at RU players. It's their top players there, mind you - since all their YOBA are too mentally retarded to even know the TS.
    Stay mad and poor, gopniks.

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    1. "Youth Oriented and Bydlo Approved" - Russian meme which means very popular video games which prefer graphics over gameplay, QTE overdose, sequels, prequels, reloads, movie-based games, clones, and anything else made purely for money.

      slav4lyf misuses the meme and means the bydlo, 45- population.

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  38. There are only three types of players:
    -Good players
    -Aspiring players
    -Noobs
    I dont have to explain what "good player" means
    Aspiring players - they are new to the game basically. And they know what to do or at least they're trying to make good.
    Noobs - lot of them everywhere. Look - there's no such thing as "RU/NA/EU/SEA* (cross all redundancies) are noobs"
    I could show you many battles whre you win, but 50% of team is dead in 2 minutes. Server place doesn't matter guys. Learn from stereotypes and Hitler is alive again....

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  39. This Russian player post was very... politically incorrect ;)

    But seriously - I got on RU JPznr IV - seems to me same game play as on EU. Nothing different (but I play too aggressive sometimes on EU server ;))

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  40. You had me in "mentally challenged" - agreed. :)

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  41. kill them with fire!

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  42. this shows the whole truth about russians - narrow-minded country thats all

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    1. You saw just one retarded article of one retarded person, and now you talking about whole country. Who is "narrow-minded"?

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    2. i know russian and their behaviour from many online games most of them are just sad pricks who like to spoil all the fun in game... so who is narrow-minded?
      i dont want to start historical flame but i have sort of family there and i know that russians have their own verion of history...

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    3. YOU are narrow-minded. Stop thinking their shit smells worse than yours.

      Russians are flawed just like any other society.

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  43. They are just jealous that they don't control this half of the Europe anymore. Two of the biggest communities were in they sphere of influence and now we dare to even have democracy! Russians just need to get back to the earth...

    Greetings from Czech Republic

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  44. "Europeans are so stuuuuupid..." LOL 85% of Russians live in the European Part of Russia.....so congratulation dumbs ;)

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    1. Beeing european is bit more than living in euro part of russia. Basicully it comes down to kindergarten, school, values, media etc. Coming from former part of ussr I know exactly what you have and what you dont ...

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    2. Well actually no, beeing European means you live within the borders of Europe.

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    3. The european continent extends to the Ural mountain range - within russian borders...

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  45. Person who wrote that article, just farming "+", and feeding trolles.
    Frank, please find something more intresting from RU.

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  46. Have I ever told you that Russia is one shitty armpit of a country?

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    1. That's one big ass armpit, lemme tell you...

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  47. I tend to ignore all the overly aggressive and raciest shit. Yes as an EU player I have been TKed on the test server but also been OKed and HFed by RU players when I supported and played well. Let us not forget that the attitude of players is a function of their economic cultural (sometimes subcultural*) and political situation. Chuck in a shedload of testosterone and you have the average pub game. I see enough stupidity in my own country by people of all classes to recognise that it is the only universal constant that can be applied ever where.

    Stop making fucking excuses and play the FUCKING game, AND REMEMBER PLAY NICE!

    *subculture = Just a group within a larger culture that can be sophisticated as the main culture that share a particular perspective that sets them consciously distinct from the main culture. [See Dick Hebdidge] Wot players are a subculture that spans different cultures.

    Herman (59)

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  48. in Russia nothing changes since fall of communism.

    Still same shit going on in government and in factories which are owned by state. Also every business with Russia is almost impossible, they are constantly blocking any form of import.

    corruption everywhere in unbelievable amount.
    And i know what i am speaking about, trust me. I am doing business with RU on daily basis

    They are just bunch of farmers in my eyes

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    1. http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/european-gov-debt.jpg




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  49. Let me tell you the only widely known facts:

    1) siemas are bad

    2) RU may have some good players but they have WAY MORE bad players, like double/triple the amount of siemas, we have in EU compared to player base size.

    3) What I have seen, there's some serious wild shit goin' on in the RU server. If they call us, EU players, mentally challenged, they are totally mentally wiped-out insanes with next to zero brain activity even if they could move the mouse and press 'w' key. More likely those actions are hotwired from the ass, not from head.

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    1. Fun Fact: not only "siemas" are bad on EU.

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    2. Every nation has its own good and bad players. And also a big average player base.

      In russia it looks like WOT is national sport. In asia are the Grind-RPG big in business. In germany i feel like RPGs, CoD, BF3 and FIFA are on top.

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    3. Every nation has bad players...

      The polish version tends to put a label on themselves = "siema".

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    4. That is true, but some people thinks that every bad player on EU is polish. BTW i saw once "blue" player that said "siema"..ONCE.

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  50. This is a terrible representation of Russians if it's true. I know that they're a plague on Dota and League. They avoid their own servers because they're full of Russian players.

    So what if disabled people play? That's awesome. Even though they got dealt a shit hand in life, they can still enjoy themselves.

    Bad players are a global 'problem'. Some people will be better than others, regardless of health or nationality.

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    1. right, he writes about disabled person as they have no right to play. for such an article he should get a lifetime ban. this is rassism as it was in third reich.

      i'm such a disabled person, not in mind, but in health and such articles are hard to ignore.

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    2. Kudos to you for being able to still play and stuff. Can't be easy - you deserve respect rather than insulting.

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    3. Disabled persons mostly have no mentally function diseases. there are enough health diseases out there. In my case i have a liver transplantation and mutation in blood. Actually not a problem but states me as disabled person.

      But sometimes i think about my own game language critically. Is it right to call everybody a noob or is it just a person with only one hand (like a gamer i know).

      Its a shame that this article was not deleted by WG. But it looks like RU community have there own rights.

      I posted in original article too, but i think the mods will not publish it, because its critical.

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    4. Everybody is disabled in their own right.

      I have multiple stomach illnesses resulting in me being in constant pain. Sadly, there is no cure for it and it still doesn't classify me as a disabled person.

      But, it does show that although we are not born equally, we all deserve to have fun, no matter what is wrong with us.

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  51. haters gonna hate.. russia's hating since late medieval and stuck to it

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  52. Just a article of the russion without a proof. Sounds like he is a school boy.
    He wanna say, that russians are the one and only. If we state this as germans, we are nazis.

    Fucking false proudness, its just racism.

    I'm with 35 older than average and i know my reaction is slower than one from a 13 years old guy. But my thinking is more strategally orientated and logical, what is a team advantage. In a random game this is often a disadvantage, in a clan this would be useful. But also in random i'm most time top 5 if win or lose, but in stats (who cares) it's not shown.

    Its no surprise, that they think so and that it is the casual thinking in russia, too. Just have a look of the decission to kick all european supertesters and hold the OWN leakers.

    What a mess. I play WoT as long as there is no alternative game. After that bye to this russian company.

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  53. SS should call this post "Lost in translation" because this article was written for russian community and for exact part of russian community and there are many odds and connections that cannot be translated directly.

    First of all, this article was an answer to series of posts about how russian players have played a bit on EU server. These russians have posted few videos showing their skill superior to EU players and commented it like "obey to russian power".

    Second, "European are so stuuuuuuupid" is the the referense to popular russian standup comic who has made series of sketches "Americans are so stuuupid". He has overdone it and in the end his name become synonim for stupid propaganda. In other words, author trolls russians about underestimating europeans.

    Third, author points out that russians can't judge european players propertly because russians have played only small part of game which experienced EU players just omit. Yes, russians had stollen some prizes some time ago, but in the long run even polish players plays better than russians on EU server.

    I would apreciate if SS will make this comment more accesible - either by placing it in body of this post or even by making it separate post. Thank you.

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  54. Braindead people exist on both the EU and RU server. Don't know what the big shoot Russian who wrote that shit in his blog think he knows, for all we know he might be stuck in his mother's basement.

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  55. Silentstalker, is this Mk 7 premium tank a typo or something?:

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/30/pc-gamer-presents-world-of-tanks/?ns_campaign=pc_gamer_bookazine&ns_mchannel=extl&ns_source=wargaming_email&ns_linkname=wargaming_email&ns_fee=0

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    1. Win the chance to drive a tank for a day.. :P

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    2. It is the Tetrarch.
      http://wiki.worldoftanks.eu/Tetrarch

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  56. I can't believe my eyes.

    Dear Frank Davis, when dealing with such kind of info, you should really consider getting help from native russian speaker who knows english on a descent level.

    Here comes the explanation.
    Firstly - this post is NOT written in the style you've translated. You made it look like the author is bringing out all the skeletons\dirty underwear and whatever else on top to show how bad EU players are. But that's not what he was saying.

    Secondly - the post itself in short has the following meaning:
    "We all know that some of our stupidest parts of community created a stereotype that EU players are terrible at playing WoT. But, despite all the screenshots and movies that's not true. In order to be more iinto the topic we should consider the following facts...
    [... Then the author mentions all the things you translated - like the availability of PC, the situation with disabled or elderly people, another way of spending freetime for adults, and etc etc etc ... ]
    All in all the game on 1-4 tiers are the same as on RU - newbies, low skilled players who just started and etc. On hightier battles is completely different. Does anyone of those who created the myth of "stupid EU players" ever played on 9-10 tier or companies or global map?"

    As you can see, the true meaning of that post was to give an idea to "myth creators" that they are just wrong (and plain stupid), not to shit on the heads of EU people.

    And I'm very sad about all this stuff, all this comments and negativity.

    Cheers,
    Aciago
    from RU community

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    1. I am not sure if original article is serious enough to receive a serious answer but I will try.

      I'm polish so I have many reasons to dislike Russians. And I did. Really we don't consider red army as those who brought freedom to our country. We are still waiting to get all the data and facts about Katyn massacre. There are many sad and tragic stories in our history.

      But I have a friend of mine who is a journalist and scientist. He wrote few books about modern Russia and Russians. I felt really ashamed after reading them cause I discovered how stereotypes plagued my opinions. And it is all about it - the way you think. It says much more about who you are then about those you talk about.

      Yorrick

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    2. Please start with deep excuses for politic of Pacification tooward ukrainians.

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    3. So what we have here is basically 'neutral' SS twisting articles to make it seems that Russians are racist turds.

      Must be nice to write articles defending Europeans in the RU server. Not only will you get blasted there you will also get racist idiots like SS twisting the article so that you will get even Europeans blasting you for it.

      Great!

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  57. who cares what the russian think?

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  58. Trivial Insulting is all day Business in WoT - i just find it amusing meanwhile and don't give a shit tbh :)

    As long Individuals can insult and provoke relatively anonymously (main Characteristic of the Internet and Games played on it / MMORPG's) it's quite shallow.

    It's looking more or less like a Strategy to make them feel better in any way.. (draw other People down - makes you appear bigger next to them)?

    Many of such statements do in fact depreciate the Originator, not the Recipient ;)

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  59. neslaaaboo popka prigorella!

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  60. nu vi i tupie slowpoki...

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  61. It's not a developers blog actually. It's just some filtered stuff that one of the developers finds interesting. Including some inside info, but not consisting of it.

    So you've just deeply analyzed some random subjective shit, that doesn't represent Russian attitude towards anything.

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  62. Yeah, this comments section is full of butthurt pubbies.

    The point was is that Russian pro scene is way ahead of europe, as well as the meta game on RU cluster is one step ahead. It's not about test servers or low tiers or your hate.

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  63. Per duck bomb a null !!!111odin

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  64. older people on EU server? obviously! russian men won't get older than 60...

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    1. Too much Vodka.. lol

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  65. About article title: it shouln't be taken as insulting, because it refers to russian comedian Zadornov whose catch phrase is "Americans are soooo stuupiiiiid!" ("Ну эти американцы ТУПЫЫЫЫЫЕ"). And, well, not many people take Zadornov seriously, so the title is more ironic.

    About new high-tier tanks on first day after release: I can't say what "many" means, but on RU servers we have plenty of those. Especially Leopards - on first day after release I've encoutered them almost each tier-10 battle.

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  66. The right translation is
    "Europeans are not so stupid as somebody wants to think"

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    1. Exactly.
      Frank did big mistake by posting it, before test server opening.

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  67. I have played a few hundred games on the RU server and a few thousand on EU server. I play lots low tier matches on EU server too, so I think I have a pretty good view on how games are on low tiers (up to tiers 5 and 6) on both servers.

    The main differences I have seen:

    1) There is no camping on RU server. Matches are much faster, people rush forwards really fast. Many players on RU server move so fast they forget they have a gun; it is not once or twice I have seen a hostile TD charge from the bushes and ram my KV-1 (with obvious results).

    2) Teamkilling is normal on RU server. While there is teamkilling happening on EU server occasionally too (try Friday evenings in a tier 2 tank, if you want to see teamkilling on EU server), there are *very* few matches on RU server where there are no teamkills at all. I call this the "comissar attitude"; if somebody does not move fast enough (including artillery) at start, somebody is going to put a shot up your butt right there in the start.

    3) On EU server we have the "Siema" factor; ie the said with more people typing to chat "Siema" or "Witam" or "PL?" is practically guaranteed to be the losing side.
    On RU server they have the "Alex" factor; ie the side with more players named a variation of "Alex" is practically guaranteed to be the losing side.


    I have too few matches on US server to make any calls yet on playing styled differences over there, but the main thing sticking to the eye on the US server is the pro-nazi mentality. In *every* match so far there has been at least a few players whose name have "waffen" or "SS" or "hammer" in them. Apparently the US mods are not very active, or the nazi mentality is just ok on US server.

    Swuul - EU
    Silanthir - RU
    Swuuler - US

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    1. "3) On EU server we have the "Siema" factor; ie the said with more people typing to chat "Siema" or "Witam" or "PL?" is practically guaranteed to be the losing side."

      Bullshit. A myth invented by Germans who still hold animosity towards Poles since Nazi times.

      What *might* be is that any team that starts "gl&hf", "derclansucht" or similar meaningless chatter has lesser chances to win (due to distraction), but I highly doubt this unscientific implication.

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    2. Kurrrrwa! XD

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    3. You are free to collect your sample. I did that for 100 matches in December. In 84 of those there was at least one person using either "siema" or "witam" during match set up. On those 84 matches 72 were where the other side had more siemas than the other. Of those 72 matches the side with more siemas lost 61. Maybe just dumb luck, but still sadly true.

      -Swuul

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    4. "Bullshit. A myth invented by Germans who still hold animosity towards Poles since Nazi times."

      +1 (and i am german)

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    5. "3) On EU server we have the "Siema" factor; ie the said with more people typing to chat "Siema" or "Witam" or "PL?" is practically guaranteed to be the losing side."

      This is full of bulshit, probably invented by Germans. I would like to hear an explanation how saying "Hi" is making it lost for them? Siema = Hi, thats all.

      Of course I can admit there are idiots who are saying "hi", but I see idiots everywhere, not only in one nation.

      As for the article. Played a lot on RU and Test server, yet I'm a regular EU player. What I have noticed is RU TK'd a lot, especially EU and NA players just for fun factor. They love to rush, camp rarely yes. They also cant speak in english, it's especially visible on their forums - I have my own mod topic there, and well on EU server I have 1700 replies and 300k views, while the very same topic on RU server has 150 replies and 50k views. They barely care to write in english in my topic to me :)

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    6. "You are free to collect your sample."

      Probably no one but WG is in position to talk about stats in this game. Making conclusions and generalizations from individual observations is SO wrong... that's bending the reality the way you want to see it.

      As for perceived "siemas" quality:

      AFAIK, Poles are the largest online population on EU server. I think it's pretty certain that there are at least several Poles in every match, and likely there's a good percentage of matches where they form the majority on both sides. That means that every player - good or bad - has more chances to be Polish than of any other nationality.

      (BTW, it could be looked at the other way around: if the team happens to be comprised mostly from Poles, not understanding Polish makes you a liability to your team.)

      Again, no one but WG can confirm or deny this hypothesis. We cannot know player distribution by country, let alone how many of them ever typed "siema" in chat. And throwing in my own anecdotal evidence: I happen to encounter meaningless "gl&hf" (get laid and have family :P) WAY more often than "siema".

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  68. some time ago i used to think the retards are only in EU server, but seeing this article... the RU have even more retarded people playing there...

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  69. last test server i played, full of russians, they were team killing EU players, and basically proved that russians are complete idiots!

    Even i got team dmg and even killed ( pushed off a bridge into the water along with another EU player by a russian)

    These russians apparently are if i could say racist against EU players! we got our disputes between us europeans, but if they think we will let some dumb russians insult us, they are very wrong! they should look at themselves they really need to be in a mental hospital!

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  70. Truth is you, mr. Frank Davis, completely missed point of the article. And because of that bunch of people butthurting in this commentary section for no actual reason right now.

    Allow me to give you a little advice. Next time you want to post something like that, find somebody, who actually speaks russian, and ask for explanations. That way you will avoid disinforming your readers.

    From Russia with love.

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  71. Ie to make it to more clear. On EU server we have the campers who won't move, no matter what tank they are in or what ever the situation in the match is. On RU server we have the chargers, who will rush forwards no matter what tank they are in or what ever the situation in the match is.

    Personally I prefer the rushers. Much easier to kill them than try to find that last enemy hiding in A0...

    -Swuul

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    1. Hmmm, so tell me why half of my team on EU server usually die in one minute rushing without any sign of brain existence?

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  72. 90% of the EU server pop are just awful, awful players. They camp/hide and contribute nothing to their team. Give me someone who is willing to charge the enemy and die trying over some retard who camps at the back any day.

    Having said that, the only idiots I've seen TKilling etc on the test server always have an 'RU' in their name, so although EU players may be worse, at least they are not socially retarded and have to kill anyone who doesn't have 'RU' in their name.

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    1. I was today killed by retard in my team, the only tier VII in our team (most were tier V) who was cmaping at base, when I wrote that our best tank is useless, he killed me while I was fighting with enemies. After battle he send me PM "hehehehe". So do not tell me that Europeans are not socially retarded.

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    2. Well I guess we all have to admit you are correct after your experience. Thank you for sharing.

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    3. hmm, perhaps I should have added something about "irony" in my previous post.

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  73. I blame you SS, you started this! LOL

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  74. It was posted on a developers blog?

    I want WG to take actions and fire this developer! A racist scumbag, that publishes such a shit on his blog, is not acceptable for a company like WG.

    SS please use your connections and put pressure on WG to fire this developer. I can assure you, you will have the support of your followers.

    Say NO to racism!

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    1. Racism? I didn't know that Europeans were of different race than Russians. Barring migrants from Africa and Asia, that are encountered in both communities.

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  75. Want to blame someone for "siema", blame this guy:

    http://tinyurl.com/ouq5bww

    It's Jerzy Owsiak, he invented "siema" word around year 1993. Nobody was saying that before this guy.

    :)


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  76. So there is another post about reaction based in this blog :D, lets war begins EU vs RUS :D

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    1. Yea, I've seen it :) A lot of батхерт :)

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    2. Sealclubbing?

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  77. UPD. Here is disclaimer for our europeans friends who has found this article and tried to translate it with Google. Google can't translate propertly because this article was written for russian community and for exact part of russian community and there are many odds and connections that cannot be translated directly.

    Author points out that russians can't judge european players propertly because russians have played only small part of game which experienced EU players just omit. Yes, russians had stollen some prizes some time ago, but in the long run even polish players plays better than russians on EU server.

    About former name of this article "European are so stuuuuuuupid": it is the referense to popular russian standup comic who has made series of sketches "Americans are so stuuupid". He has overdone it and in the end his name become synonim for stupid propaganda. In other words, author trolls russians about underestimating europeans.

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    1. Well, he's trying to make it a bigger science than it already is. Considering I do get some Russian "hints" actually pretty well, I don't think I misinterpreted most parts (granted, I didn't know about the "Europeans are so stuuupid" being a reference to some show, but I don't really think that's important in the context of the whole article).

      As someone above said, the author himself got slammed in the comments by other Russians.... that alone should say a lot.

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    2. The point of his post was, the there is diference of playrbase,(here we have problems in tier8-10 where are a lot of 40-44%) here playing more players for tank game itself, and dont care about how they playing (good or bad). Look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h-GAkwbuVkM they caling these kind of players "aliosky" aka alex some stuf is hard to translate properly becouse ENG doesn have such words or meanings, but you can understand if you see?

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  78. Nice trolling, SS, if it's even a bit simplistic for my tastes.

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  79. Why is suddenly so important what a moron writes an a blog about the opinion of the russian community about the EU community?

    Even if it was the opinion of the ENTIRE RUS COMMUNITY, why should we care about that?They play on their own server, EU has its own, NA the same, etc.THe fact that one side sees the other as noobs hs no importance at all.

    Every server has its morons, retards, campers, so it's all about around max 10% of the player base that actually owns some brains and uses it ingame.

    Useless waste of time reading and commenting about....nothing really.

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  80. Before judging a whole server and start blaming it for a part of its rather bad players one should better look for himself and ask if he isn't a bad player as well. A game in WoT isn't won by blaming the noobs on both teams but by the strategies and qualities the whole team got.
    So before start complaining dear Russians as well as dear Europeans you should keep your mouths shut up make the best out of every game and start playing for fun again.
    In the end after 10000 games everybody has experienced about the same amount of rather bad and rather good teams. So it's all up to himself how well he had performed these games.

    Innocience

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  81. Well, mentally disabled people are still better than someone with 10 bottles of vodka in them.

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