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May 23, 2013

23.5.2013

- all the promo tanks have the same rules as the premium ones, when it comes to crew
- the AMX-13/Chaffee hybrid will go to the nation, "to which it is more convenient"
- whether it is introduced: "no comment"
- if Object 430 is ever introduced, it will be tier 10
- in the next patch, the HEAT mechanic won't be changed further, after that - "no comment"
- British tanks won't have HESH rounds replaced with HEAT
- the turret and hull hitpoint changes reason is better HP distribution when switching turrets
- 0.8.6 won't be the last 0.8.X series patch
- devs consider the "newly researched tanks get better MM" a proper thing
- T-43 lost the 100mm gun (long time ago), both because it wasn't historical and for balance reasons
- 100mm D-10T won't return to the Soviet medium tanks on tier 7
- T-43 won't get an alternative gun in the future

List of superheavy tanks (for the purpose of extra large spall liner):

USSR: KV-4, KV-5
Germany: GW E, JT88, Jagtiger, Jagdpanzer E-100, VK4502 Ausf.B, Maus, Lowe, E-75, E-100, VK7201
US: T95, T110E3
UK: Tortoise, FV215b, TOG II

- devs are permanently fighting illegal mods
- there will be no game mode without arties
- it's possible that Walker Bulldog will be implemented as the US light tank one tier higher than Chaffee
- if you have a spall liner on Maus or other superheavies installed, it will be uninstalled automatically, changed to extra large and moved to depot
- 8.7 will apparently bring US rebalance + British arty (SS: earlier it was said that 8.7 will come very soon after 8.6, possibly within 2 weeks)
- 8.8 will not contain German TD's
- there is no plan to introduce decals for kills (SS: such as the German rings on barrel, or skulls like the fighter planes did)
- Storm explains the XP for detracks: "It will be only for XP, there will be no credit bonus. The detrack bonus will be 25 percent at the most (and not 50 percent like when lighting up).
- there will be more premium tier 8 tanks in 2013, they will be introduced gradually (not all at once)

Also, you might have noticed there are basically 0.8.6 changes out already officially - allegedly, it's because the developers are certain that by the time the "finished" 0.8.6 hits the last phase of supertest, some supertester would leak the info anyway. In this sense, the leaks worked to open the "WG kitchen" a bit more.

The EN translation is not exactly top notch either this time (for example EN "flight velocity of shells for short mortars will be nerfed by 50 percent" RU: "UP TO 50 percent") but it's okay. Big changes then. Here's what Storm commented under his article.

Following changes were done to the economy  - rebalance of gold shell prices:
- with each gold shell, its effectivity was considered (taking into account its damage and penetration) and its price was changed to match its effectivity
- subcaliber shells were sometimes made more expensive, sometimes cheaper
- HEAT shells were almost all made more expensive, because they proved to be cheaper for the same performance of the subcaliber shells
- premium HE shells were practically not touched, apart from some exceptions

- dynamic camera does mean that the camera will stop that nasty twitching, when the tank is going over the railway
- there will be no special opportunity to buy new camos (camo reset + price refund)
- 0.8.6 will come in June
- the Korea map will use winter camo
- Storm has no info on the Nvidia crash bug yet
- France will (as seen on the previously released pictures) have more modern camos
- the E-100 armor nerf reason is "unification" (SS: with Jpz E-100 I think)
- railway tracks were not yet sunk into the ground (as Storm planned to do) in 0.8.6




75 comments:

  1. What E-100 armor nerf are we talking about?

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    1. Side armor gets changed - not much, from 130 to 120mm or so.

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    2. And the bottom of the upper side hull (above the tracks) gets nerfed from 90 to 30 mm, like it is on the JagdE-100. Any 90mm+ gun overmatches that, so you can deal track and HP damage simultaneously by shooting through the front sprocket when it is cresting a hill.

      -Platypusbill

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    3. Clarification:

      http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9055/e100newweakspot.png

      -Platypusbill

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    4. and Why are they nerfing the poor e100? when the t110 and t57 perform much better than any heavy in game? are those changes on the e100 historicall accurate?

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    5. Because he has a strong lower front plate...

      ok ok i cant stop laughing.
      wg hates e100.

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    6. Because russian bias !!!1!!11!!!!

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    7. They heard some people were able to have a good performance with it.
      They had to take action.

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    8. YOU TOLD THEM KITOV LELELE xDDDDDDDDDDD

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    9. rarely you can even hit in that spot. if you are dumb and stay perfectly still then you deserve it. Otherwise its the same as with E-75. In 300 games ive been hit in that area only twice. In 400games my JPE-100 not even once.

      Tiny spot.

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  2. - the AMX-13/Chaffee hybrid will go to the nation, "to which it is more convenient"

    I heard there were both Chaffees with AMX 13 turrets and AMX 13s with Chaffee turrets, is that right?

    - it's possible that Walker Bulldog will be implemented as the US light tank one tier higher than Chaffee

    If they took off the T37 turret from the Chaffee when it's bumped to tier VI, they could make the T37 the tier VII and the WB the tier VIII, with the M48 Patton's stock gun (90mm M41) as an upgrade. Most sensible solution IMO.

    - with each gold shell, its effectivity was considered (taking into account its damage and penetration) and its price was changed to match its effectivity

    Hopefully the extra 15mm pene on my Leopard will no longer cost 14.4k per 360 damage :D

    -Platypusbill

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    1. Yes Bill, it is right, both mutations exist. And yes, the plan is to buff the Chaffee to T6, T7 - Walker Bulldog, T8 - T92 from what I heard.

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    2. And konisch gold still cost 2k credit for 221 pen and 165 dmg. Thank god they forgot that!

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    3. why buff the Chaffee to T6 when the Vk2801 got nerfs when going to T6?

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    4. Just a different, he said "buff" the "tier", not the tank

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    5. Just a different word, he said "buff" the "tier", not the tank

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  3. British tanks won't have HESH rounds replaced with HEAT

    Sure, let them be useless. Absolutely unreliable rounds, but working as intended. Fucking communist twats.

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    1. Why do you want to take something UNIQUE to a faction away? Let all tanks be the same and 110% balanced? How exciting!

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    2. My tank has a feature I don't like --> Belarus company and their workers are communists.

      Just like in the days ;D

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    3. because that unique feature makes FV4202 underpowered. you cant use HEAT when u r facing lets say angled Maus, hulldown E100, some T10 TDs etc. HESH only works on Leopards. Yeah, such a great benefit. FV is the weakest T10 medium by far and n1 gives a flying fuck. You can check noobmeter - played by tankers with the highest WR and still underperforming.

      But at least FV is fast enough and has tough turret with working mantlet, NOT.

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    4. This guy is right. The FV4202 needs a buff in all aspects to make it a viable tier 10.
      HESH is the worst part of it, for a whopping extra 90 damage you get a round that you can use only in very unique circumstances. Hell, half the time in those unique circumstances it still pisses you off. One time I shot the back of a Chafee with a HESH for 12 damage.

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    5. All it needs is a proper HESH mechanic adding to the game and since they changed HEAT there is hope.

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    6. I don't see the lack of HEAT as a problem as I almost never use gold ammo on any T10 tank. I don't think it is underperforming I have around 70% win rate with it, as a comparison T62A around 70, same for Leopard 1, E-50M 63%. Never had any problems of penetrating anyone, if you face Maus you can easily flank him or penetrate from turret if he is looking at you or exposing his frontal armor, flanking goes for TDs and hull downies also. HESH could be buffed though, avg dmg around 500 or more and it would be ok.

      -Kehvon_Poro

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    7. Well, in CW u must reliably penetrate with as many shots as possible, but you know that. I understand that on public, there is no need for firing gold rounds in 95 % of situations. But still, 5 % is quite a lot and sometimes even one shot makes difference between win and lose.

      Anyway, you are telling me that on +300m u can penetrate Foch or T110E3 reliably? And flanking with 40 kph?

      BTW http://www.noobmeter.com/tankStats - check it out. Only 44k battles, half a year after first release... Plus u cant deny that according to the stats it IS underperforming tank.

      Back to HESH, solution - give it back its mechanics, which has on its first test server. HESH rounds worked, unless u hited tracks. It would be fine for me. But current state sucks. Plus reworking bloody turret - add internal mantlet, which this tank has in RL.

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    8. People usually grab on that 40kph, yes it is slow for a med but fast enough for me. You also have to use hills, buildings and other cover to flank, when you are up close FV is a beast with great acceleration. At 300m it's accurate enough (especially after 8.6 when the shell spread is changed), obviously you won't penetrate on every shot. As I said above if you won't pen frontally then just find a better place or keep it spotted for arty.

      For CWs I think the 40kph is too slow for CW medium tank, there is nothing that T-62A, BatChat and E-50M wouldn't do better except for gun deppression but you can always use Fattons for that :P

      -Kehvon_Poro

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  4. nerfing E-100...stupid stupid stupid, and T-57, the most OP tank ever with which even bots can do 2k+ dmg per game is fine...i am thinking about leaving this game soon...

    richblaster

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    1. oh noes, you will leave! how can the rest of the world of tanks survive without you ?!

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  5. I think this leaves the maus as the only unnerfed tier 10 heavy.

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    1. To quote the Wolverine movie trailer:

      "Don't be so sure."

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  6. its quite amusing that a bug that is as easy to reproduce as the Nvidia crash one is still not fixed.

    especially their "but it's the vendors fault!" stuff is doubly amusing given World of Tanks quite frankly dreadful frame rates and the overall quality of the software itself. (ie. bad to dreadful)

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    1. To be fair, I have that bug from time-to-time. And I must emphasize TIME-TO-TIME, it's not consistent. I may go from crashing every time to not crashing for months. Recreating something that sporadic is difficult, especially when trying to ascertain the reason for the fault.

      I don't know of any nvidia users, personally, that crash consistently.

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  7. is there any reason for nerving the 110e5 ?

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    1. Maybe to try and get more tanks used in cw?

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  8. "devs are permanently fighting illegal mods"

    I love how they say they are fighting illegal mods, but there is no clarity on it across servers. They really need to publish a definitive list, that spans all severs of every little tweak or mod they consider illegal.

    What one person calls a "slow computer modpack" on the NA is a "illegal mod" on RU.

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    1. Yeah, they sure do! Very confusing.

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  9. "- 0.8.6 won't be the last 0.8.X series patch"
    Really? Who would have thought that?
    "- 8.8 will not contain German TD's"
    ...
    "- 8.7 will apparently bring US rebalance + British arty"
    What the hell? They stated previously, that there will be no 2 arty patches one after another.
    Is there any information about the economical changes? Or will it be only the premium shell cost adjustments?

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    1. German TDs seem to be delayed again, great...

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    2. Cmon Cheer Up...
      still have More patch this Year thou...

      They confirm it will release in Autumn, so its probably 8.9 or 9.XX

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    3. "OMG GERMAN TDZ DELAYED!!!!!!!!!!!!11" - mantra repeated ever since the second line was anounced (it was around the time of 0.7.5 patch, or even earlier).

      I'd love to see the shitstorm that might happen if said tds turn out to be crap - that would be the most epic trolling ever. :D

      ~orzel286_EU

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    4. http://worldoftanks.com/news/733-world-tanks-release-plan-2011-2012/
      There you have the "mantra"

      Shitstorm? You haven't seen then the little unprofessional soviet tanker babies crying for the old tier V KV with 107 and 152 mm guns...

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    5. Because the little unprofessional German tanker babies never ever cry about anything.

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    6. They do. But asking for the ZiS-6 or M-10 guns at tier V beats all stupidity IMO.

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  10. Hello, do you know what the upcoming US rebalance involves? Lights increased to tier VIII? Anything else?

    Regards
    TitanLegion

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  11. "8.7 will apparently bring US rebalance"

    R.i.P Fun Tanks :( --> Chaffee/T71/Hellcat/T57/T110E5

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  12. The fv215b is only 70 tons, I thought that superheavies were tanks over 80 tons?

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  13. Maybe it has a fat crew(that permanently lives in it).

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  14. "- devs are permanently fighting illegal mods"

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... that was a good one...

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  15. These belorussian idiots could (and should) have buffed the JagPz E-100 armor instead ...

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    1. Now, now, we can't do that. It doesn't have red star painted on it. You silly Kraut fanboi.

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    2. I didn't know the Hetzer or the T57 had a red star painted on them...

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    3. *takes can of paint out*
      *paints red star on Hetzer*
      "Hey that Hetzer does have a red star on it"

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    4. Enough vodka can make a difference.

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  16. Question about camo: When the patch is out, get all tanks in my garage a camo-reset automatically (again)?
    I remember last year, when the decals were introduced and all my tanks in garage where reseted. That was a real pain!
    Or is it like this this time: new camo is introduced and you can get the new ones IF you like (with ne refund) but still keep the old ones on your tanks?
    Thanks for clearing it out

    - subaluigi -

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  17. - railway tracks were not yet sunk into the ground (as Storm planned to do) in 0.8.6

    I guess Ruinberg's streets won't be flattened also. Not that i hate the map the way it is now, but i'm saying this cause they've said they'll be flattened ages(patches)ago, same as railway tracks. I said this many times but they are really fucking incompetent monkeys indeed. 3-4 fucking patches to flatten the bloody railways. I wonder how much time they would need to fix it if every map contained railways and not just few of them.

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    1. I guess those "really fucking incompetent monkeys" considered it low priority, or maybe just put it in the back of the queue.

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    2. It won't bring money directly so yes, it's low priority.

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  18. TheLordFlasheartMay 23, 2013, 8:37:00 PM

    No HESH for Brit tanks, the gits. Proof devs hate us Brits more than Germans.

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    1. The only proof in that sentence is that you are a blithering idiot.

      Mr. P

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  19. I need an explanation... anyone?
    "- the turret and hull hitpoint changes reason is better HP distribution when switching turrets"
    Why change the h of KV-5 turret then?

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  20. Meanwhile in Russia...

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=571_1369328924

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  21. lol, this game suck big time.

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  22. What are the new mechanics for Spall-liners?

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  23. What does USA rebalance mean? LEAVE MY T71 ALONE!

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    1. A little Nerf Hear, a little Nerf There and a Bloody Big Nerf Everwhere! What you think?

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  24. There are a few reasons they subtracted 10mm of armour off the side of the E-100.

    1)Major arty nerf,(reload,shell velocity, etc.)
    2)Intro of super-heavy spall liner
    3)Almost ALL gold ammo will have equal or less penetration than the E-100 heat shells. Ironically, the E-100 HEAT at 334 pen stays unchanged and will have among the highest gold penetration.

    The E-100 will be one of the most OP tanks in the game after 8.6. cheers.

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    1. Don’t say that [face palm]! I see yet another nerf coming our way!

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  25. Any news on historical battles game mode?

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    1. Sure, soon™

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    2. That's War Thunder, here it is: "When it's ready, I'll tell you."

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  26. "all the promo tanks have the same rules as the premium ones, when it comes to crew"

    Im curious as to why this was brought up.

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  27. Bloody Hell! I can put an improved Spall Liner on my FV215b. Christ; Scum Bag Arty will do 1% less damage when landing their laser guided nukes on the bloody thing, great! WG get the Nerf Bat out it’s going to be way over powered now!

    Wish someone would create a Mod to get rid of the Scum Bag Arty Homing Beacon from the forward Arty Landing Pad! Shit that would be an illegal Mod and banned! Oh well……….

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  28. So many German Superheavies. Lay off the desserts you gits!

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