nice, not only for t10
only clanwars = full shit" every clan has a chance " = bull shit
Pretty much this. Instead of trying to come up with alternative endgame for those that don't wish to play CW, they do this, which of course, will only benefit the clans that are already dominating the scene.
It's going to be the top clans earning pretty much all the points and then a few decent but smaller ones right behind them.
u know thats the point of a competition: the best wins... I dont get it why the noobs now start crying "But we has no chance against all the good players"And it would be the same with every way wg could make such a competition: The "pors" will win, the noobs wont get anything.. its not about CW being the "problem"
the problem is not the goods winning vs the siemas; the problem is that the game is focusing only on CW, and it should be only 1 part of the game, not the end of it.and they keep saying that every clan has a chance, what is a lie, only the actual best clans have a chace to win that, no little or medium clan will get near them.
not much of a competitionquick look at the global stats and you can already name the winners with enough degree of accuracy
Well some of the top clans are already discussing this and working out who should win what. That's how it works on the NA server.
that is just sad, really fking sad anon... we need a way to remove all that stupid aliances
I think that all whinin is premature - we don't know requirements for this new "campaigns". Old, good clans take their strong from skill, size, alliances, X tiers. If we remove size, alliances and X tier factors from equation then even 30ppl clan without X tiers but skilled ppl with good FC can beat them in the field - with proper tasks where old tactics don't work.
So thats how the Tier 1- premiums will be given out, been wondering about this, SS you do a great job, I hope you keep up the good work.... J Doz
Time to go to cereal klen...
hmm so a theoretical max of 5000 peeps(4*100*5 + 30 * 100) could get this unique tank, while in reality this number whil perhaps be only somewhere around 1500, sounds realy rare to me.) Sad that peeps who dont do clanwars/have a good clan cant get anything. But still, i am glad for those who do, as this is clearly a change afterall since it all became a bit boring didnt it?
The thing I don't get about this is that the people who stand to benefit from it mostly already play CW. It won't actually attract many people who don't already play CW, will it? Seems odd for WG to put a lot of effort into something that will just keep existing players rather than gain new ones.DerpX
Well, i for instance will find myself a nice Clan and play CW again, after i was fine without one for nearly half a year, just because of that :)
we have 3 new t10 tanks, but there will 4 campaigns right ?something is missing, wondering what will it be, any clue ?
u can win the M60 in each stage of this campaign, and in the complete campaign. the other t10 tanks are for new campaigns after that one, or other stuff we dont know about yet (altough most likly something else cw related)
Hey Frank, any info on the premium status of this tank? We still don't know for sure if it's going to be a premium or just a regular tier X tank.
XP and income-wise, it will be a "regular" tank.
Oh that sucks...Oh well, thanks for the info ;)
really shitty event....non-CW players ignored as usual by WG...
lol what an idiotic statement...its the first time wg is doing something FOR the cw players... and everyone can get a clan...
Everyone can get a clan? So you say that any clan has a chance of winning among clans like -G-, HAVOK, PBKAC and the others...The CW players are rewarded already with the gold coming in for the lands holded.-Abacs21
sry but is it the good players fault that some players are noobs and that a competition works the way best wins?
so u think that anyone REALLY has a chance to win? LOL.....
anyone who playes good yes.. and THATS how a competition should work!!!!
And I find it outrageous that only the pro players have the chance to get these special awards. Everyone should have equal chances for winning them.-Abacs21
I find it outrageous that despite being an Unicum, i have to play with 14 other people in order to win this tank!HOW DARE WARGAMING FORCE ME TO PLAY WITH OTHERS IN A MMORPG, HOW DARE YOU WARGAMING?I SPENT MONEY IN YOUR GAME FOR FUCK SAKES, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER I WANT!
carbon u should at sarcasm tags... someone could start to believe it ;)
carbon you don't seem capable of thinking before writing:1-WG states that they want to introduce a viable end-game content different from CW2-they add a new end-game content (tier 10 tank) that will be available only THROUGH clan wars.am I the only one seeing a gigantic BLACK HOLE in WG logic?wouldnt it better to make them achievable also in random by some special achievement? EG: awarded to players that research a full nation tree and are able to get more than 10 kills with one of that notion's tier 10 (just an example)that way, theorycally everyone could get it, but only very good players will actually won the prize.Also don't u think that this is only a gigantic move to "force" people to go to CW?
"1-WG states that they want to introduce a viable end-game content different from CW"Hold on, I have the proper image for this:http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq979vR0Hz1qzma4ho1_400.jpgYea, that about wraps up how stupid that post is.
I wish PBKAC-SEA can win the SEA Games...Odds are stacked too high on our case. <.<
Because introducing a subpar version of an already subpar tank is totally forcing players to go play ClamWars.I sold my M48 for credit, and ill do the same for M60, all that tank means to me is 3 million worth of credit.BTW, by different end-games, i think they meant tournament, and they just had one last week that involves tier 1s.Oh wai-, you had to be good to win that too.
Come on guys, this is just the usual WG fail. Nothing new to see here. Let me guess, this was Serb's idea right?
Yeah carbon, keep repeating the same shit again. You dont care, you can get the tank, you are in one of the biggest clans afterall...
It might get gift status like the beta pre-orders so they don't get credit generation of a true premium vehicle.
Aw, good im glad to see wargaming encourages competion and offers a fair chance to every pllayer to get this unique tank.....NOT!I will not join a clan just to earn this tank, they should do something so every player can stand a chance, not just those in clans, and particularly, in good clans....Wana know which clans will win? just take a look at the top 10 clans ingame...
Well at least you could win some money from bets...
I can already tell how your stats look, so I guess "lottery drawing" is the only way that gives you an equal chance to stand against the good players. Sounds fun?
This is the gayest bullshit ive heard. Good for people who are then going to sell the account on Ebay.Selling world of tanks account+M60 unique tank. $5000. This is a big fu to everyone who has hard earned it's tanks, through hard grind and spend their money+hundreds of hours into the game. Every bot can get into a clan these days.Ahh well M60 is fucking shit anyways.So screw you whoever came up with this stupid idea!
but bots in clans dont win fights.. and if u r the supermegaüberoberpro then go, get a clan and beat all the bots :P Im sure u will show those "Noobs" how to play WoTIn other words: Above post is just a crying post by a noob thats to bad to win anything or get into a serious clan
LoL at all the QQers, Crimea River, i feed upon it.
you feed on my sperm as your mom did too.
But dad, i thought you didn't have a dick!
It's a shame idiots like you Carbon are allowed on this blog and not fined for breathing precious air away from others.
This idiot is better than you at a simple video game, can you not even beat an idiot at a game that is just slightly harder than Tic-tac-toe?By the way, before youpull the no-life card, i play 2 hours a day, max.
So basically if you not in EFE,IDEAL,PTS,322,QV,1SBP etc you pretty much screwed for getting this tank. Not hating on them of course, they have all pretty amazing players. But that is going to be the reality of it all that 95%(excuse the maths), won't ever smell this tank getting close to their garage including me(who is barely above average player). I just think this is a really retarded way of getting these special tanks, I might not be as good as them. But I've put in a lot of battles,time and some money into this game and I just don't feel this is the right way to handle this. Snubbing most of their player base.Hope they change their minds how to get this, but I seriously doubt it.~salute~
Wow, Participation alone is not being rewarded? This is totally like..... Real Life!
Obviously being a dick has it's own rewards right?Before you make anymore assumptions I live in a totally different time zone than you, where clan wars start 1am in the morning. So please think in advance and stop being a keyboard warrior without bringing coherent arguments to the table.Thank You in advance for your words of wisdom.Regards
Should i always file a complaint because i take night class in University 5 out of 7 days and has to take care of my semi-blind father the other 2 days?Wow, real life is a bitch, isn't it?
Must be 'murican logic ^.^Thanking you in advance for your words of wisdom.Regards.
They should give everyone who played in the past 60 days a M60, because thats the only way everyone will be satisfied!Oh wait, people who had their computer broken would still be bitching.
You are seriously derailing my OP.. sigh 0.0
Like what, if they lowered the bar so you can get it, then the 48% players would start complaining that how come you got it and they don't.Either its completely fine how they are doing it right now, or EVERYONE should get it.There is no in-between, either set a bar at whatever height you wish, or have no bar at all, because no matter how high or low the bar you set it as, some people will bitch because they judge from their own perspective.
Thank you for finally answering it properly, why couldn't you just do that in the first place instead of being a total unicum dick about it?Anyways you are right what you said, I don't agree with how WG are going to hand out this tank. If you not in the right clan in the right alliance you are to be screwed anyways.Just my 2c about it, you don't have to agree with it. But please respect my personal opinion about it.Looking forward to your words of wisdom.Regards.
Everyone who takes part deserves it imho! No just the same elitist minority that get everything catered for, how much free gold do they get from CW already.The casual players need to unite on this issue, it us who pay for the game not these elitists getting a free ride.
Sigh im a clanless noob and even i can see how flawed this argument is . argument 1: I have a real life and can't be bothered to be part of a clan but i still deserve the prize.argument 2 : The elite players in clans are 'catered to '/ have it easy somehow .Lol this like dividing by zero. It's like matter and anti matter coming in contact with each other .
Wow this is starting to be a nightmare like WoW where ->CASUAL<- Players complain about "hardcore" gamers getting all the content in BC.The Game went straight down the toilet afterwards.You are a casual by choice, you don't invest as much time in your hobby as other ppl do, therefor your content is limited.Never heard of a semi-professional tennis player, that he cannot participate in wimbledon. I want to participate in the NHL Playoffs, I cant field a Team, I have no idea about the professional progaming, but hey, I want that Trophy....
This is different its the casual players that are paying for the game they put the money, the people who will win this get thousands of gold from clanswars. The don't put jack into the game but reap the benefits and yes I've played clanwars the income was enough to keep me in premium and buy me a type. If anything kills the game it will be giving into the elite crowd, because everyone else will stop paying.
I won't ever be getting this, because I'm primarily solopub and 54% WR is not high enough to get into top-5k level. However, as long as they make the tank definitely worse than the best free tank of the same tier, it's no skin off my back, and shouldn't be any skin off anyone else's back either. As I understand it, this tank won't be serious competition for the best Tier 10 in game, so whatever.
I'm not an elite player and I don't have much time (<10 games a normal day), so no CW (or probably any organized play except for platoons) for me. And yes, I do pay money, having invested some 200 EUR into the game (to make up for my lack of skill and free time for the usual grind).Still, I don't see this offer as unfair. Elite players are elite for the reason, they did their choice - they devote their time to the game. I personally would rather improve my "real life" stats (physical condition, knowledge, family, income) than numbers stored in a SQL database somewhere deep in Wargaming.net backend, but I respect their choice.Let them have the exclusive content and please stop complaining. Speaking for me personally, I won't cease playing (as infrequently as I do) and paying (to take shortcuts in grind), because the experience I currently get is fun enough for me.CampingGoldNoob, EU.P.S. Having said that, some kind of "global challenge" for non-organized/casual players would be nice. Like, a Global War between all in-game (6 currently) nations, where you would rise in ranks of each nation the more you play it - without requiring you to be in clan.
I have 10 tier 10 tanks and will have 3 more by next patch. I don't play clan wars because of my time zone. I am still at work when CW battles goes - crazy that I have a life huh? Despite my work, I manage to spend countless hours and an embarrassing amount of money on this game, and yet, once again WG has given me the finger. I am not sure how lowering the tiers makes it make more accessible.
Uff seems like a pretty exhausting work You must have... Working till late evenings EACH day? Well dunno what your time zone is, but each day till that late hour? :/ ...
Did you seriously think they would come up with something reasonable? I know hope is the last thing that dies, but seriously: wake up. After all this is WG we are talking about.
@lonigus - Your sarcasm was nice, but you ruined it when you realized you have no idea what timezone I am in. I don't even work late (I'm in the military), but when I get home at 5pm, its 11pm eastern time. I'll let you do the detective work figure out my time zone from that.
Before crying check M60 stats. It's shit. Worse than M48 actually. If it was some crazy OP tank earning as much as a Type59 then heck i would be pissed too. My T62A can trash this shit to the ground.
Well its not just the M60 I guess that is attractive, but also the big amounts of gold and last but not least massive e-pen increase lol. You know skillerz and their stats...
here is linkhttp://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/223059-m60-m48-patton-comparisons/Shittier armor and micronic better accuracy,+speed+aim than m48. Now everyone can calm down.
Thank You kind sir.
Well sorry for those that doesnt fit the specifications of joining a strong competitive clan, but srsly those rewards are and should be something really worthy...Oh and dont think that skill will be a 100% guarantee for a good clan to get their hands on the M60... Iam very afraid that MASSIVE alliances gonna roll over skilled, yet small clans like an avalanche. Want to see how will WG prevent this happening.
The only thing I'm hoping for is that it won't be counted as a tank you need to kill for Master Tanker.
Doubt it, it's like those special pre-order tanks you got when the game got released. They won't count because they so rare -.o
nice i dont play CW at all so i cant achieve the tankwell done WarGAYming
is it wg's fault that u'r not playing cw? OR just the "I want that tank mom pls gimme! GIMME!!!NOW!!!" There are 20+ other tier 10s, so no need to get that one (moreover just a copy of m48... im more interested in failöwe and ufo)but cry them a river, SerB will love it :P
CW system is a big shit actually, maybe in the future it will become decent, but right now, it doenst deserve to be played.
Maybe if you pray enough your great great grandson will be able to play with a decent CW system.Uh who am I kidding.
has WG ever prevented anything from happening ingame?
So... If you have really good clan with much clan members.. you can split it up for example on 3 parts (30 - 33 players or so). If someone will decide to do sth like this.. ALL players from such clan can get M60, because they are good enough, to be in top 30 clans. I think playing good should reward you, sure. But it is imo main weakness, which means that chances of getting rewards (apart from gold after stages of course) - will be pretty much minimal...Is it good? I don't know. Weaker clans can still earn some Victory Points, which means gold for them after all stages. But I hope they plan sth more, than just changing CWs or E-sports competitions. New game mode ANYONE?
Of course will probably be no way I'll get my favorite tank.
I'm making it a personal vendetta to team kill anyone who drives these things. This isn't open to everyone, even the beta gifts were open to everyone who played beta, this however caters only to those who play CW and the elite clans. WG can go screw themselves.
As someone who played loads of battles in closed, but not quite enough in open beta to get any 'gifts', i respectfully disagree. There's a potential pool of 50 clans to earn this, provided you play enough games. It's been known for ages that they were going to be CW rewards, and they are lowering the bar for CW entry so new clans can compete (ie. not all t10 battles) I don't see what the problem is.
If by lowering the CW bar you mean the Gold ammo for credit, then if you thing about it the only thing it achieved: it ruined randoms, and had no significant effect on CW-s because even Gold ammo cannot buy you skill.
notice on 0:27 second of the clip -- 4 stage tanks -- tier1 , tier2-6, tier7-8 and tier9-10 :) ahahaha imagine CW on tier1 ahahhaha
lichtraktors with binos,camo unite! lol :D
Stupid people. WG will be selling this tank a year from now in their gift-shop. They promised nobody'll get KV-220 and pzV-IV and A-32 and M6A2E1 and here they are for anyone willing to pay.
On Eu server u still cant buy any of those ;)
Wut? Show where you can buy them.
pzV-IV , A-32 and M6A2E1 whare part of bonus for buing start paceges back in 2011 !!! it was 1 time offer
Well they sell them on RU today A-32 & PzV-IV for 10$M6A2E1 for 30$You'll have to buy some extra gold with them though.
They only sell them on the Russian server, because there were no start packages.But again they are making the mistake of saying that you won't be able to get this tank any other way EVER.They don't learn... They regretted it with the M6A2E1 andthey will with these tanks.Snortsch
oh wow... this is beyond gay. im from EU and play on NA and waiting for transfers for a year now, so i cannot participate in CW's which are at 3am for me, this is trully massively gay
There must be a forcefield erected that prevents you from just creating and playing an EU account a year ago that still exists today.Right?
yeah- 16,5k battles and lots of $ invested.
Ever heard of sank cost?But hey, captains go down with the sinking ship i suppose.
buras you are not the only one. Im stuck on NA too with over 13k battles and money invested. But i see the M60 is nothing more than an M48 so its no big deal for me. I thought M60 will be a premium and have earn money like T34,IS-6, but nope.
And the announcement post on NA forums gets negrepped...People don't like change.
As player from multicclan i cant say im surprised by this shitstorm ... go get clan, try to get ur tank... but dont expect that ur pzDERPiv gonna be enough to impress someone on global map...
Mow lets see WG put the FailLowe at the other end of the player spectrum: 15,000 solo battles, cannot be a member of a clan, and one platoon battle resets your battle count to zero...
Most of the comments here="Alle denken nur an sich, nur ich denk an mich" ;)Means something like : Everyone just cares about himself, except for me, I care about myself.
let me get this straight:to win this tank you have to be in a clanto win this your clan has to be goodto get in a good clan, you have to be good------------------good players will get these tanks.... WOW THATS THE UNFAIREST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN! HOW DARE THEY REWARD ONLY THE GOOD PLAYERS, ITS A COMPETITION FFS, EVERYONE KNOWS THERE ARE NO PLACES IN COMPETITION, EVERYONE IS A WINNER.... thats what they taguht me at my special schoolFor anyone that doesnt get sarcasm in this ill translate to idiot language:Suck my rooster you crying babies, the reason you will not get this tank is because you are a) to bad player to be in a good clan b) to antisocial to play with other people in a teamFinally a competition aimed at the best of the best. Suck it noobs!
Its funny because all the "pros" will get them and they suck (The tanks that is), but because they are played by good players they will never get buffed.Haha, sweet irony.
Somehow I think there is no such thing as balance... even if bad players take tanks and overperform nothing is, but atleast they are _going to_ address the supremacy of certain USA branches... Maybe they get it right this time around I wouldn't mind getting foched too.
This tank is more or less the same as current M48 patton... m48 is good, m60 will be good.Besides even is its sub par tier 10 its still super rare so it has huge value.
Most people have a problem with this because the reward tanks will be exclusive to these kind of events. I don't think anyone would rage if WG gave out tier 8 premiums instead.
Great the tank I served on for 10 years is now part of some big elitist circle jerk, WG has gone totally the wrong way this.
srsy, no one cares (i respect all soldiers, but this has nothing to do with you or tank you served on).... you want the tank, join a clan that will win it
Exactly this, my dad commanded an M60 in the Italian army I loved seeing them as a kid, he plays and would love the chance to take one onto the game. WG is making a big mistake doing this, it ruins the entire point of the game.To the 2nd guy join a clan that can win it no...those clans are all stacked clans that steal the best players of small clans and only recruit unicums. My small clan 23 players with about 35 T10 took a landing then got zerged by lame ass aliances and the odd province. Then they are pm'ing our best players offering gold to join them. In short clanwars is a closed shop don't bother.
Thats like saying, UEFA is unfair because my team of 5 football players are not competitive in champions league... dude grow up, cw is DESIGNED for clans of ~100 players, if you want to play the game you need the right tools. Also its natural the best clans recruit the best players, thats amazingly close to how it works in real life.Football - football, 11 players, two goals and a fieldBasketball - basketball, 5 players, two baskets and a fieldtenis - two players, a ball, two tennis rackets, a fieldCW - 100 players, tier 10 tanks, a CW map
I pay for premium I should have access to all content your analogy is in no way comparable. This is a video game its not a professional sport it's here to be enjoyed. I'm going to email IGN and PC gamer about this the only way the masses can get fair representation is to create some bad publicity. I suggest ALL players take a stand on this issue, this game isnt about 30 or 40 clans with 1500 players, there are millions of others playing and paying for this game.
Guys... download a skin for your *insert favouirte tank here* that looks like the m60 if you want it that bad.
You dont need premium to participate in CW ergo you dont need premium to get this tank... Pls dont talk out of your ass, premium gives you 50%+ on credits and xp and a nice shiny garage, nothing less nothing more.
That's not the point, I'm paying for premium to keep this game going I should be able to play all the content. The people who will win these tanks actually pay nothing towards the game they never have. I've put more than €500 in CW players have been getting free gold for years, that pays for premium status, premium tanks and ammo.I'm paying real money, I keep this game going I deserve a tank I want to play, I'm the paying customer here not the elitists getting their free ride.Since your into dumb analogies I buy a new car but only F1 drivers are allowed to drive it on weekends, same shit people who are paying wouldnt put up with it.
Funnily enough I care as much about the M60 as I care about clan wars... not at all,but the epic shitstorm is quite enjoyable.*grabs popcorn*
Mind if I steal from your pot?*Tooks from the opening and smirks for sharing the caring*
So funny to read all this crying and whining :DAll the haters are angry, jealous little kids, at least in their minds.In this game EVERYTHING is accessible for EVERYBODY. If you have money, you can buy all the premium tanks, without any experience and gaming skills. If you have enough time, you will reach tier 10 tanks, even if your average xp is under 200...So, can have anything, you can play with everything, even if you cant play at all, and you are just a burden for your team.But now WG will give some tanks as gifts for GOOD players, and all this rage blasts out from you, and you hating everybody else, just because YOU can't play :DRaging, because there will be 1 (later, there will be 3) tank, which you can't get for money and for free time, but you need SKILL, if you have to own one of them, and it hurts you so much :D
Exactly, since they cant get the tank because they suck they will think of 1001 different (absurd) reasons why they should get it also without the required skill.well what did we expect, the biggest whiners, noobs and napoleon complex players are the loudest here, such a sad bunch. Let them have their few seconds in light, we can lick their tears while we drive our M60's.
It's insanely funny how many people got butthurt off the idea of top-tier CW-players getting something rare/unique for their skill.1) The fact that the new T10s were CW-related was known pretty much from the very first leaks off the tests, with people already comenting on the "fairness" of rare tanks for extreme high-end content. So why the butthurt and rage now?2) The stats of the new T10s aren't all that good, the failowe is downright bad (as are most of the german high-end heavies compared to other heavies), the m60 is pretty decent (a scaled down m48 with roughly similar stats) and the 907 looks nerfed already by just having such a sucky gun (that practically REQUIRES the player to use gold shells, unless they decided to get a diff. gun), so it's not like they will dominate (as much as i think that soviet/us top-tiers dominate in most cases, yes) random battles, and the CW-guys already have setups of the best tanks, they won't go for scaled down versions just to get another T10. So why the rage here?3) I have personally NEVER played CW and doubt that i will, since i don't have that much time to seriously start getting my skill on par, but i honestly think that this is an awesome decision - WG actually did something with CWs, getting people a bit interested, it's about time, for almost 3 years i can scarcely remember anything of real note (or fun) on the CWs! Top-skilled players must be rewarded for the amount of grind they put into this game and a rare T10 (a REALLY RARE T10) that's scaled down and doesn't even farm much - seems good enough.Also, SS, personal question - do you have any opinions on the changes that you cover up in the QAs and the LJ topics? Like being butthurt about this topic or loving the arty rebalance, etc?Rayxanber, RU
That's not the point, I'm paying for premium to keep this game going I should be able to play all the content. The people who will win these tanks actually pay nothing towards the game they never have. I've put more than €500 in CW players have been getting free gold for years, that pays for premium status, premium tanks and ammo.I'm paying real money, I keep this game going I deserve a tank I want to play, I'm the paying customer here not the elitists getting their free ride.
The guy has a point.
If all you have to do to be become an elitist and get all the perks of being cool is to have an elitist attitude, why not just change your attitude?I mean, its not like theres any thinking involved, right?
I bet these top players you mention wish this were true.
I wish i could become a tanking-god by just believing that i am.Oh wai-
Top CW players put much effort in having CW viable tanks. You need to have multiple T10s to be competitive, in our clan the average number of tier tens per player is about 13-14. You sir on the other hand are a typical Pay2Win bitch, who thinks that if he spent 500 euro he should have everything.Focus maybe on moaning about the inavailability of Type 59G?
Tough luck bitch, guess you cant buy skill with money. Mr. P
This CarbonWard guy must have a sub 80 iq or downsyndrome, nothing what he's saying is relevant is to what the first guy said. If he represents the standard of clanwars players I think I'll sign up it must be full of gormless idiots.
bla bla bla i have premium bla bla i deserve a real chance bla bla...... jezz... CRY PUBBIES CRY!!! be a good player or GTFO
Problem is, being a good player is not enough, you have to be in clan as well. If someone, like me, don't like the whole idea of clans, have no chance to get new T10 tanks. To be honest i don't care, but there are people who are...
For fucks sake, not everything is for everyone.Suck it red barons, lol.
"For fucks sake, not everything is for everyone."And that is my point! I don't want this T10 to be available for everyone, but I would like them to be accessible for good players or players with many battles played (like 20000). Right now they are in reach only for good clan players and this is really foolish move from WG in my opinion.
but then it will be basically for everyone, right ?bit of a logic fail seems to me
lots of battles does not imply you are a good player, so no, push battle-afk or die like a retard- do that 20k times, is NOT someone who deserves anything, let alone this rare tank.Mr. P
"but then it will be basically for everyone, right ?"If you think that everyone can be good player, you have not played randoms lately."lots of battles does not imply you are a good player, so no, push battle-afk or die like a retard- do that 20k times, is NOT someone who deserves anything, let alone this rare tank."It would be really easy to find such accounts and ban, no problem for me :) But there could be different criteria, that was just an example. Number of battles could be 30k, or making it really elite 40k battles. Everything would be better than this WG idea...
"For anyone" is just WG being diplomatic. I dont think anyone needs more detailed explanation of that. Consider this like olympics, EVERYONE can participate, but only a few ill get medals...So pls, stop with the "bad WG idea", its bad for people who have no chance of winning it, and thats not WG fault.Mr. P
"So pls, stop with the "bad WG idea", its bad for people who have no chance of winning it, and thats not WG fault."Lets just say it could be better.""For anyone" is just WG being diplomatic. I dont think anyone needs more detailed explanation of that. Consider this like olympics, EVERYONE can participate, but only a few ill get medals..."I don't have anything against your point of view, I would also like to see this tanks being given to elite players. What I don't like, is that, it's so "clan" dependent. That is all...
For a team based game, clans, cw and ESL are a must if you want to be considered elite.Being elite in WOT means you must be a good player AND a good team player AND have lots of top tier tanks.I really dont consider players who are good only in randoms to be elite. A good example is 322, all elite, unicum players, jet that clan has almost 0 chance of winning this tank.. why? because they suck as a clan/team ergo are not elite.Mr. P
"For a team based game, clans, cw and ESL are a must if you want to be considered elite."Let me tell you just one thing. World of Tanks should never be competitive game because of RNG. Something like. -25/+25% pen and damage is absurde for eSport. Imagine Counter Strike with shots flying all over the screen, except aiming cross or Starcraft II Zerglings having random amount of life. This game is team based, but is not even close to be competitive."Being elite in WOT means you must be a good player AND a good team player AND have lots of top tier tanks."Having top tier tanks doesn't make you elite..., look at randomsFor me there is no difference between good player and good team player. For me good player plays for win, ergo he plays for his team."I really dont consider players who are good only in randoms to be elite. A good example is 322, all elite, unicum players, jet that clan has almost 0 chance of winning this tank.. why? because they suck as a clan/team ergo are not elite."I don't agree. Achiving unicum level is not something easy that everyone can do. In my opinion that should be enough, but we can have different opinons, can't we?
1. RNG is NOT absurd for competitive play. I will just name LOL and WOW, both have RNG tied deep in their game mechanic and both are doing just fin in ESL, much better than WOT. BS argument2. BS again, if you play more tanks you are better in more tanks, ergo you are a better player, you can be the best in tier 1 but you can be the best in tier 1,2,3,4,,5,6,7,8,9,10 if you play everything... see the point3. well, why wouldnt suck an elite person join a clan then?
You won't give up I see :)"1. RNG is NOT absurd for competitive play. I will just name LOL and WOW, both have RNG tied deep in their game mechanic and both are doing just fin in ESL, much better than WOT. "Only because there are different RNG games that doesn't mean it is ok. I don't play LOL or WOW so I don't know what infuence RNG have on gameplay, but in World of Tanks RNG is often major factor in losing or winning a game. This is unacceptable in competitive play. When we are talking about Sport (or eSport), all there should have influence on game is skill of player, nothing more, nothing less. Only because there are different RNG games, doesn't make this argument BS..."2. BS again, if you play more tanks you are better in more tanks, ergo you are a better player, you can be the best in tier 1 but you can be the best in tier 1,2,3,4,,5,6,7,8,9,10 if you play everything... see the point"This is valid statement. I wasn't thinking about it that way because you don't have to play top tiers, to know their weaknesses or strong points. I agree this can be helpful, but it is not mandatory to be unicum for example :)"3. well, why wouldnt suck an elite person join a clan then?"There are people that simply not want to play in clan or have no time to do so. But why not give solo players some kind of reward for their achievements? Good clan players, Elite clan players have premium tanks, have premium accounts, have plenty of gold, but are not spending money on this game, and they will be again rewarded with special tanks. That is just pointless in my opinion.Lets just assume that to get this tier 10 tanks you need:30k battles60% win ratio2000 effall tanks researched in specific nationWouldn't you consider such a player elite? Wouldn't it be enough?
1. Well as with real sports there are uncontrollable factors influencing the game, wind, sun, rain, morale, fans etc. we could call them RNG, its not always "the best team wins". Further on, penetration -/+25% is realistic. If you read enough tank stories, you will notice its not always as it should be... sometimes shells behave in a strange way. good tank crews hand picked what shells to use since not all shells were built the same and some produced lower muzzle velocities. Besides, fixed values would bring dullness and predictability to the game... not good.2. The only tier where you can consider yourself elite without playing higher is tier 8, because of the ESL. 3. Reward for solo players in not having to get involved in clan jobs and obligations. While you can turn on your game anytime you want and play, we cant do the same. If im online when CW starts i can not play randoms and ignore the commander, i have to play CW. Otherwise im kicked from the clan. Oh and, only a handfull of clans can support their players for them not to buy any gold. Maybe 10, thats a maximum of 1000 players, thats NOTHING.And believe me, all top clans i have played with rejected great players numerous times, mostly because of lack of communication, teamplay or even superiority complex. So no, your example of a elite player is not a sure thing for clans.Just look at LiveIT, 34k battles 67% victories, ~2000 eff BUT he changed 13 different clans, no clan wants a "live wire" like him anymore. Ask any top clan on map would they recruit him, most will say "no way, keep that psycho away from me"Look all im saying is, this competition is finally something for us CWers. If you dont play cw i dont expect you to understand why this is great news for us. Finally SOMETHING not every random pubie can get.Mr. P
"1. Well as with real sports there are uncontrollable factors influencing the game, wind, sun, rain, morale, fans etc. we could call them RNG, its not always "the best team wins". Further on, penetration -/+25% is realistic. If you read enough tank stories, you will notice its not always as it should be... sometimes shells behave in a strange way. good tank crews hand picked what shells to use since not all shells were built the same and some produced lower muzzle velocities. Besides, fixed values would bring dullness and predictability to the game... not good."Thank you, but I know that :) But we are talking about a arcade game. If I need to leave one, that would be penetration, because of realism. But damage, that is just nonsense."2. The only tier where you can consider yourself elite without playing higher is tier 8, because of the ESL. "Agree."3. Reward for (...) pubie can get."Yes, I can understand that. That is fine, but there is still reward missing for solo players :) You know, something you would like to get, something to wait for :)
time to uninstall wot and look for alternative =)
there is no alternative, unless you want to play Chinese WOT ripoff... soooooo good bye whiner, hope you never come back
There is - Tanki Online :))) ( www.tankionline.com )
haha there is always other MMO game out there beside tanking game and by playing a game i always look into end game content, for this wot just fail in it...think of this the champion is just a marketing move forcing more player to have more tank in different tier in garages = more gold WG earn... you must be a 12 years old kids who take money from daddy to not releazie this move they make haha
"Some players win some tank shocka!" My "GiveAFuckOmeter" (pat pend) is failing to register...
This Carbonward guy needs to l2p and not just spam gold
He gets carried by better platoon players 24/7 then acts like he's something special. I met his Batchat a few days ago in my T54 he missed twice bounced on my turret twice, then started screaming lucker in chat. Poor loser and a poor player getting carried by others.
I played my batchat?A few days ago?Wha?
WTF is you problem guys?Its a an CW Event.For random players there were events before. And also its just a start. Maybe this tank will be avaible again on some other Event. Who knows yet? Its just pure envy....Also WOT is a team based PVP game. So why shouldnt u need to win with a team to get the prize. When i get it right there will be no tank-blocking. So even 30 guys can get together and play this event. Whats actually the best thing about this. No need for 100 ppl.
the M60A0 is not worth playing for, its not the M60A1.
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