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Apr 11, 2013

New posts/articles?

First, the quick poll for the 2nd WoT anniversary results - the question was:

In the 2nd anniversary gay-rage, some European flags (notably the scandinavian ones) are missing. How do you feel about it?

Well, looks like around 50 percent people don't give a crap (coincidence: 50 percent people who read this blog are Americans or Russians :) ), 23 percent people think it's because silly Soviets can't tell one country from another anyway, 12 percent think WG is intentionally trolling and 16 percent think it doesn't matter because it's not like we can tell a difference between Russia and Belarus. Oh well :)

Now, on to this post's topic.

You might have noticed FTR now has several authors with more perhaps incoming. I tried to pick people according to their specialisation and availability, so we have a German tank guys, American tank guy (American tanks is something I know very little about in fact) and Soviet tank guy, with a British tank guy on the way (you could have seen the Commonwealth article today from him - yea, the typos will improve, no worries).

That sort of leaves me the possibility to write whatever I feel like, with various topics available. So, a question for you (obviously only for those who read something else than the translations): what articles and topics would you like me to cover?

Obviously, there is no need to mention the translations and leaks. Translations won't stop and the leaks... well, as long as there is something to leak, those won't stop either. So, apart from that, I have several ideas:

  • more Czechoslovak tech articles (for example: amphibious tanks, various CZ T-54/T-55 versions, various light tanks etc.)
  • WW1 tanks (various obscure beasts, their history, WW1 tanks in Russian civil war)
  • Improvised tanks (Odessa, Bob Semple, Kubus and many others)
  • Special tanks (Engineer vehicles, ARV's)
  • Other nations tanks (Argentine, Ecuador, Africa, Afghanistan... yes, they actually had tanks)
  • Main nations obscure prototypes, that might make it to the game (various Soviet Objects, etc.)
  • "Freedom tanks" (armored vehicles, used by citizens of the eastern bloc to forcefully cross the borders despite army/police resistance)
Or something totally else? Please let me know. As I mentioned however, I will leave German vehicles to Zarax and Thor, American to Priory_of_Sion and Soviet generally to Ensign Expendable, unless there is a specific vehicle you'd like to write about.

I made a special poll for this, so please vote.

11.4.2013

- the third T-80 crewmember was historically the gunner
- the old tracer system (where you could see tracers even from undiscovered enemies) will not return
- devs have enough ideas for game optimalisation for several years of implementation
- all arties will be completely rebalanced up to the point of implementing new guns
- official WG "noobmeter" is planned for very distant future (SS: if I understood this correctly, it's somewhat unclear, since a part of the original question is missing)
- single-click crew transfer from tank to tank (premium to regular and back for example) is planned
- devs consider KV-1S balanced and alright
- Object 261 (based on IS-7 hull) maximum speed won't be increased
- you can spend only 3 battles in a row at the bottom of your team, the 4th battle the MM forces you to be on the top or in the middle of your team
- in the future, accidentally sold crews will be possible to restore, for now, it's not possible even thru tech support
- the rules for teamkill/teamdamage punishments will be changed (intentionally not said how), devs are working on it right now. Current system does take recidivism (previous bans) in account when selecting proper punishment. The changes in rules (and possibly to whole mechanism) ETA is not yet decided
- the cancelled tech tree transfers (Hummel - Pz III/IV etc.) were not included in the patchnotes because Storm forgot about them
- Storm states that it's useless to angle the Löwe, it has a weak hull for its tier - you gotta take shells with the turret
- it's possible the "average damage per battle" stat will be implemented into the player's official profile
- new "mechanics explanation" movie (SS: I believe in English the series was called Interesting mechanics or something like that?) will come relatively soon
- SerB states that the problem with implementing the T-62A was that some its stats were too good while others sucked, the tank was also considered "too new", but SerB is happy with how it turned out
- the maximum gun elevation angle in game is 45 degress, that's when the arty shell flies the longest distance. For example if the arty stands on the 30 degrees slope, that angle would be 15 degrees
- devs do not watch player-made bug movies on youtube
- for arty vehicles using 2-part shells (shell + charge separately) it was considered to allow them to use reduced charge fill so the shell would fly with more curved trajectories. The idea was however scrapped.
- there was no "1941 pattern T-44", there was only the A-44 project (SS: regarding Soviet medium tanks, players are trying to post suggestions for various alternative Soviet types)
- Object 430 will not be implemented as tier 8 Soviet vehicle (SerB: "Share the marihuana joint") (SS: Object 430 was a late 50's medium tank project, designed to improve/replace the T-54. While it was not a bad vehicle, its performance was not much better than that of T-54 and the project was scrapped. It would make a fine T10 I think).

Commonwealth Uncommons

Author: OhSlowpoke, US forums

Silentstalker: This article was sent to me by the aforementioned author for publishing. If you like it, there can be more where this came from.

Edit: cleaned the worst typos, some are probably left

Commonwealth Uncommons

This is Commonwealth Uncommons. The goal here is to take a look and investigate some really uncommon and interesting designs from the UK and her Commonwealths. Today, it's Canada. I've got some probably unheard of guns, and some vehicles that might fit their way into a tank tree or premium vehicles.

I absolutely love weapons that are made and designed as a last resort, or their purpose is of arguable or debatable benefit, and you'll find that a lot of my research (particularly) into commonwealth designs tends to be a lot of stuff that was built “because they had to” rather than what they wanted. It's more interesting that way! I like the struggle to find a solution rather than simple procurement.

David Gun

Named after “... a little fellow who throws a small stones with great speed and accuracy.”, the David gun was a a fairly simple idea, designed at a time when resources were of absolute importance. Make a gun that used existing 2-pounder ammunition and barrels and improve performance as much as possible.



Using common components from the 2-pounder and 6-pounder, the David gun was, in layman's terms, a 6 pounder casing necked down to accept the smaller 2-pounder projectile . Although designed as an infantry based weapon, it was intended to be mounted on any tank that could accept the 6 pounder (and some that could accept the 2-pounder).


The most impressive part of the David gun can be shown in a raw statistic- rounds would leave the barrel at 4150 fps (SS: 1264 m/s)! Compare this to the seemingly meagre 2650 fps (SS: 807 m/s) when the same ammo type was fired from the 2-Pounder Mk X. This was a true hyper velocity gun, firing at over 4000 feet per second- and, with the addition of the Littlejohn adapter and the Mk 1 Littlejohn ammo, that number increased to 5058 fps (1550 m/s)!

The gun managed to penetrate with the 149mm armor penetration while using the APCR ammo during point blank test fires on flat armor. No penetration performance of the shot with the Littlejohn was recorded (at least none that I could fine) but one could postulate a bit and ballpark the number at in the 170-180mm range, of course, this was at very short ranges.

“Canuck” Gun

Much like the David Gun, the Canuck gun was requested at a time when guns were at an absolute premium. The Commonwealth in its entirety was scrambling to find a replacement for the 6 pounder in order to keep up with German development, and several projects were started concurrently, such as the 8-pounder, 12-pounder, 75mm Vickers and 17 Pounder Projects. The Canadian contribution was the so-called “Canuck Gun”





The gun was effectively a lengthened 6-pounder, stretched out from the earlier L/43 and L/50, to the L/63 length. Tests with the weapon showed a muzzle velocity of from 990 m/s with APCBC. Compare this with average of 792 m/s and 831 m/s for the L/43 and L/50 guns. Firing APCR the recorded penetration was 130mm at 30 degrees compared with the 100mm penetration of a L/43 shooting APCR with both shots at 400 yard.

Although the weapon was seen as an improvement and a success it was abandoned, as existing 6-pounder designs, firing the more advanced APDS ammo could achieve similar performance. I don't believe the weapon was ever tested for performance with APDS rounds. Although oddly enough the weapon was used as a testbed to test muzzle breaks for later marks of 6-pounders, firing APDS with high pressure casings (performance of that was never recorded as the weapon as a project was abandoned by that point.)



In World of Tanks, we get 105 and 110 with silver, 170 and 180mm with 'gold' round penetration (on the L/43 and L/50 respectively). I'd imagine the Canuck gun might be able to achieve 140mm and 200mm “gold” penetration, using ballpark figures. Wargaming's penetration figures are a little wonky on the 6-pounders (they're using APCBC for “AP” and using APDS figures for “APCR”) but at least we wouldn't be consistently wrong.

The Canuck was only slightly more heavy than the existing 6-pounder and as such could feasibly be mounted in just about any tank that uses a 6-pounder. It was also planned to test it in mountings in a number of tanks, supposedly it was predicted that it could be used to engage German Tigers and Panthers. The M10 or M4 tank or a SPG mounting on a Bren Carrier or Loyd Carrier were a few examples of considerations. I would particularly enjoy a RAMII in the tank tree with such a weapon.

6 Pounder SP – Airborne

In April 1943 plans were drawn up for a light-weight, low profile tracked 6 pounder to take either the 6-pounder or the QF Mk V 75mm (a bored out 6-pounder).



It was based off a universal carrier with one less roadwheel per side, powered by a 60 hp Jeep engine with the Jeep gearbox. It would have a crew of two and carry 70 rounds of ammunition. Total length would be no longer than 4.6m, with 1.3m high, with atop speed of 64 kmph, a gun traverse of 15 degrees in either direction, elevation of 20, depression of -7.



It was designed for airborne type operations, but due to the fact that even with its tiny size it failed to fit inside the Horsa gliders, it wasn't adopted. It was however, an extremely tiny tank!

The artillery users' committee considered its use as a replacement for a standard 6 pounder but this was seen as unfeasible, as the 2 man crew would severely limit the gun's rate of fire (a second carrier was suggested to carry the remainder of the crew and ammo). This would be suitable as a low-tier TD.

Sexton tank destroyer


During 1942, there was a concern within the Canadian military about the supposed shortage of proper, effective armored vehicles, which were able to engage the rapidly improving german armor. Canadian Lt. General McNaughton made a request to mate the 25 Pounder Ram SP (later called the Sexton) with a 17 Pounder.


The concept was a sound one, early 17-pounders were actually built into existing 25-pounder carriages, without much modification to their recoil mechanisms- so why not simply mount it on a tank that had the same mountings?


It wasn't long before a prototype was mocked up, and it turned out that the 17 Pounder was a little difficult to mount than previously expected. Once mounted correctly, the gun stuck out a bit too far from the front of the vehicle, exposing important mechanical parts to potential damage. The long gun and huge breech and recoil length kept the guns' traverse quite limited and required some significant changing of the internal crew layout of the Sexton.

There was also a plan to mount the 3.7 inch Anti-Aircraft gun (it had a superior HE round and supposedly slightly superior armour penetration at all distances) and it was claimed the two guns would be “interchangeable” with very little effort. According to documents it was less difficult to mount the 3.7 inch gun than the 17, the gun was shorter and allowed overall greater traverse. Mountings for the British pattern 3in Anti-Aircraft gun were planned as well, if weapons such as the 3.7 or 17-pounder could not be procured.

Source: Secret Weapons of the Canadian Army by Roger Lucy

Apr 10, 2013

How to get rid of the 2nd anniversary garage

Do you think the gay-rage sucks? Well, here's a fix how to remove it.

http://www.statswhore.net/promod.php?download=hangarfix.zip

Credit goes to Xoff who posted it on EU forums and to Folterknecht who made me aware of it.

Thanks guys. Tested it, works perfectly.

Installation:

1) download the zip from the link (cca 10Mb)
2) unpack the content
3) copy the zip file content to your World of Tanks directory - you will have to overwrite some files
4) play :)

EU 2nd anniversary special will be identical to the US one

Just confirmed: the EU 2nd anniversary special will be identical to the US one.

US 2nd anniversary weekend special



Source: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/224034-2nd-anniversary-weekend-special-is-lame/page__st__20__pid__4171113#entry4171113

10.4.2013

- Q: "In 8.5, the Konisch gun damage for regular and gold shells was made the same, is it realistic?" A: "As soon as you provide us with the real life data on Konisch gun damage (measured in hitpoints), we will make it realistic"
- when smoke (as cover) is introduced, the cover mechanism of various objects (haystacks, walls etc.) won't be changed (they won't be added as camoproviding objects), there are too many of them
- various tanks have various tracks hitbox models, these models do not depend on the type of the suspension (torsion bars, Christie etc.), rather than on its shape
- you do recieve credits for caused module damage
- the archievements for the XP class badges (3rd Class to Master) for arty won't be revised
- trophy (captured) tanks will not be made for now
- some branches have regular vehicle - arty transfers, it is not yet clear what will happen to those transfers when the arty is stretched to tier 10, apparently they won't disappear all
- KV-1S to SU-152 transfer won't be implemented
- the Chinese TD and arty branches are not yet prepared, let alone modelled, no details will be told now
- shell (trajectory, impact) system won't be modified, it would get too complicated
- 0.8.5 test 2 will have a few minor bugs fixed
- Ferdinand won't be separated into the Elefant and Ferdinand tanks, because those two tanks are practically identical
- T-62A was the "ugly duckling" tank, the developers didn't want to implement it, but had to because they didn't find any proper alternative.
- the escort mode was tested but the devs decided it's not working and decided to scrap it
- WG cooperation with (implementation of) Raidcall, Teamspeak or Mumble? "No comment"
- Matilda 1 and Char 2C plans? "If there are any, I will tell"
- IS-3, IS-8 and 110 won't get a frontal armor buff on the spot where lower plate and upper plate meet
- it's not yet clear whether the Chinese TD branch will containt SU-100 and SU-152 copies
- Q (by a player named Mishkas88): "Will there be any changes in German tank properties in 8.5 test 2?" A: "No. And that 88 means you were born in 1988, right?" :)
- there are many factors as to what premium tanks will be implemented and what not
- apparently, the Chinese TD's are a mess - there is enough material to make two branches of them, but the devs are still thinking how to make it all fit together
- somewhere in the next few patches there will be a sound re-work, but music re-work is unlikely
- new anti-aliasing is scheduled for middle future (not as bad as distant - usually refers to 6 months - 1 year or so)
- there will be a new WG video, possibly explaining the shell penetration trajectory inside tank
- it's possible Korean War will appear in historical battles, Vietnam War most likely won't
- in the future, the sound engine will be updated
- visibility range restriction removal - doesn't have high priority, definitely won't come in 2013-2014
- HE shell splash has the shape of a sphere, not a circle
- the weird 2nd anniversary garage (SS: more like gay-rage) won't be optional
- T-70 will be made a 2-man vehicle before the 0.8.5 goes out

Czechoslovak armored recon

Hello everyone,

now, I doubt this will ever have anything to do with World of Tanks, as the vehicles this article is about are way too modern, but they are interesting nonetheless.

Armored recon of the Czechoslovak People's Army (ČSLA)

As any military expert will tell you, on-spot recon is very important for the modern army's operations. It was hower a Czechoslovak army's weakspot well until the early 80's. The reason for that was the fact that the Czechoslovak army didn't have a proper tracked (and reasonably armored) recon vehicle. Combat recoinnaissance was generally conducted by the OT-65 armored transporter (in its recon configuration). This vehicle was far from perfect and had a number of weakspots. For one, it's a wheeled vehicle, which by itself causes lower terrain passability. Its maneuverability was also low and even the heavier versions were insufficiently armed for the task. During the army divisional training in 1977 and 1981, this has become even more apparent.

Czechoslovak OT-65A


 The stopgap measure taken was the use of the BVP-1 IFV ("bojové vozidlo pěchoty" - the Czechoslovak copy of BMP-1) as a recon vehicle, but given the lack of the sophisticated optics and sensors, it was judged as inadequate and a decision was made in April 1983 by the Ministry of Industry to task Konštrukta Trenčín (a Slovak engineering company) to develop a specialized tracked recon vehicle, based on BVP-1. The basic project was ready by the end of 1984 and the project was given a code name "Svatava" (a Czech archaic female name, also a river in northern Bohemia) and designated as a "BPzV" - "Bojové Průzkumné Vozidlo" (English: Combat recon vehicle)

BPzV Svatava



The prototype (the work on which started in February 1985) was built on a modified BVP-1K platform. BVP-1K (the designation "K" - taken from Russian means "komandirskij", a commander vehicle). The difference between the standard BVP-1 and the command version includes:

  • additional radio station R-123M
  • additional radio station R-107T
  • additional UHF infantry company/platoon radio system RF-10 (for communicating with infantry), plus additional powersources for all these devices
  • improved intercoms and remote controls for the additional radio equipment
  • 2 pieces of field telephone plus cables
  • TNA-3 navigation system
There were however further modifications to the design. The commander's copula with a specialised laser rangefinder of Czech origin was developed at VÚ Doksy, while the SDIO laser rangefinder itself was of Czech origin too (made by VÚ-060 Prague).

The prototype was ready in July 1985. The vehicle was armed with the 73mm 2A28 smoothbore gun and the PKT machinegun. It however also had an ATGM launcher for the 9M14M "Malyutka" missiles (NATO designation: AT-3 Sagger). The vehicle also had an 81mm smoke grenade launcher, NNP-21 night vision device, PSNR-5 ground radar, MRP-4 seeker radiolocator and a TNA-3 navigation device. For its time and for the possibilities of the Czechoslovak army, the vehicle was pretty sophisticated.

The first tests were held later in July and continued till September. The parameters were:

Weight: 13,9 tons
Armor: 6-23mm (similiar to the BVP-1)
Engine: UTD-20 16 liter V6,  295hp (980 Nm torque)
Transmission: mechanical 5+1
Road speed: 65 km/h
Terrain speed: 45 km/h
Floating speed (the vehicle is amphibious): 5 km/h
Armament: 73mm smoothbore 2A28 (400 m/s muzzle velocity PG-15V HEAT shell, 300mm penetration), PKT machinegun, AT-3 Sagger
Extra equipment:

  • PSNR-5 radar
  • MRP-4 seeker radiolocator
  • NNP-21 night vision device
  • TNA-3 navigation device
  • PAB-2A compass
  • laser rangefinder
  • laser detection and indication system
  • ÚV-20 water purifier
  • OS-3 decontamination unit for operations in NBC-polluted areas
The test showed that by adding hydraulic shock absorbers on 2nd roadwheel pair, the handling properties and ride smoothness have been significantly improved compared to the original BVP-1. Additional fuel tanks were added to the design, increasing its operational range by 150km (to cca 700km). Some problems with watertight compartments and the laser rangefinder were uncovered during the tests - those were fixed until October 1987. In further tests the vehicle succeeded and it was accepted into ČSLA service as "BPzV Svatava".

Between 1988-1990, 200 pieces were made. 16 were bought by the Polish army, which called them BWP-1S (Bojowy wóz rozpoznawczy-1 Swatawa). In the Czechoslovak army, the vehicle was used in tank and motorized infantry regiment recon companies. It is possible (although speculative) that the East-German army was testing the vehicle also, but never bought any.

Slovak army Svatava


After the Czech Republic/Slovak Republic split, Czech army was using the Svatava vehicle until 2009, when it was declared obsolete and the last surviving 12 Svatavas were decommissioned. It was replaced by BVP-2 (licensed BMP-2) vehicles (without any recon equipment).

Svatava's successor

In 1988, the development of the replacement vehicle was started. It was decided to use the BVP-2 (BMP-2) platform. The project was developed between 1988 and 1990, when it was cancelled under the name of BPzV Sněžka (Sněžka, in German "Schneekoppe", is the tallest mountain of Czech Republic). The AT-4 Spigot (9M113 Konkurs rocket) launcher was removed, the only weapons to stay were the 2A42 30mm autocannon and the PKT machinegun. The vehicle was equipped with television and thermovision sets and an independent electric source for the recon systems. Only a prototype was made, the vehicle was never accepted to service. This is how it looked:


Further specifications are unknown. There was apparently a second project of a BVP-2-based recon vehicle, designated "Vyšehrad". It is not clear in fact, whether it's the same vehicle or a different project, not much is known apart from the fact it existed.

Epilogue - OT Zubr and Pandur vehicles

Have you ever heard of the OT Zubr by PSP (not to be mistaken by the Polish Zubr armored vehicle, that's something else)? No? Well, no wonder. It was an independent wheeled APC/IFV project from the early 90's by a Czech company PSP Přerov - and a good one too. Its fate however was a sad one. Last year, I have been in personal contact with a representative of the current company, PSP Engineering, which is PSP Přerov's leal successor, in order to find  the original ZUBR blueprints. What I found out was the history: PSP was a relatively successful company and in the early 90's, when the communists were "thrown down" in the so-called "Velvet revolution" (read: they gave power to Vaclav Havel's cronies in exchange for economic power in the country, many of the old communists and secret service agents are the current Czechoslovak billionaires, for example Andrej Babiš and others), Václav Havel, who was paid by the Americans, completely destroyed Czechoslovak military industry. One of his victims was the PSP Přerov's "Zubr" project. Only a promo leaflet scan now remains public. This is how it would have looked:


After PSP went bankrupt and was bought by American investors, the original plans were not considered interesting and they were destroyed. A copy most likely remains in the Czech military archives, but I believe it is still classified, haven't looked into it yet.

A decade later, instead of supporting local military development, the politicians decided to buy the Austrian Pandur II wheeled for Czech army (72 pieces) - to be fair, certain Czech companies participate on its manufacture. One of the roles it fulfills is combat recon. It's not a bad vehicle, but the whole thing ended up as a huge scandal, as the vehicles were purchased for several times the price given to other customers - it turned out to be a huge corruption case and it is being investigated till now.

Sources: 
www.valka.cz
my own research