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Jun 1, 2013

1.6.2013

- while final patchnotes are not realized, the fact that tier 7 arty can fight tier 5-6 teams (as a top tank) is intentional and will be even in the live server
- accuracy was improved roughly by 20 percent in 0.8.6, devs don't consider it overpowered

- while WoWp actually has a linear skill improvement (levelling up the crew from 50 to 51 costs the same XP as from 99 to 100), there are no plans to introduce this to WoT. The reason for that is that such a system is less forgiving for casual players (hardcore players would get insane crews much faster and there would be a lot of them)
- in the future, drowning an enemy (pushing him into water) will count as a kill and might even yield a bonus
- when deciding what vehicle gets the XL spall liner, base weight was taken into account, that's why the T110E3 doesn't have it
- when your client version is not up to date, the client won't run (server won't allow it)
- graphics weren't changed in 8.6
- E-25 price was not yet decided
- camo mechanism was reworked because the developers wanted to improve the effect of camo net and camo pattern and also to get rid of the 2-bush exploit
- Storm is not sure, when the fix for Redshire FPS drop will come
- the accuracy of all vehicles (except for arty) was increased by the same amount
- based on yesterday's article on JPZ E-100 (SS: see earlier blog post, I translated it), Storm will re-check the influence of ventilation on masking
- it's possible the Korean map resembles one real life location (Yonchisan valley)
- the Nvidia issue was not yet fixed, there are still problems apparently
- intertia is not taken into account when moving the turret
- the fact a tank can't steer when going fast and its engine gets destroyed is a "feature", but Storm also adds that to do it differently would be difficult with current physics system
- VK7201 Failowe won't be obtainable thru random battles
- there will be a list of tanks, which get a profitability boost in 0.8.6, it doesn't concern tier 8 premium tanks, but some lower tier premium tanks it does
- SerB is personally responsible for the SU-26 122mm gun removal
- it's possible that all the WG projects won't have only unified premium account, but also unified gold
- there will be no rebalance (compensation) of tanks that pre 8.6 relied heavily on their accuracy, like the E-50 and some players think they lost the edge in 8.6, since all tanks are more accurate
- the reason behind the camo/accuracy/profitability changes was constant incessant whine: "Why am I getting killed by shooting bushes?" "Why can't I hit anything and shells fly to the edges of the circle?" "Why do I make so few credits and always have to play with a premium account?"
- for now, there are no plans to nerf tier 10 TD HEAT/APCR shell penetration, as those shells have their limits, they aren't as universal as before
- the dynamic camera is still being discussed, but devs will definitely reduce the camera "jump" after shooting
- no additional test server will be implemented, devs are happy with current situation
- the British will for now recieve no highpen gold shells as an alternative to HESH
- tier 10 vehicles won't be changed in 8.6 beyond the changes currently on the test

And here's SerB, commenting on the 8.6 artillery whine:

63 comments:

  1. wait, WOWP has crew skills? O.o

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    1. the next patch (which will come pretty soon apparently) will add them

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  2. the reason behind the camo/accuracy/profitability changes was constant incessant whine: "Why am I getting killed by shooting bushes?" "Why can't I hit anything and shells fly to the edges of the circle?" "Why do I make so few credits and always have to play with a premium account?"


    really? come on... so 30k fake accounts crying can do more than 300 pro players?

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    1. I for one welcome the changes wholeheartedly. The camo one might turn out to be terrible but the others i'm ok with

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  3. -in the future, drowning an enemy (pushing him into water) will count as a kill and might even yield a bonus.

    What if you accidentally push an ally into the water? would it count as a team kill?

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    1. "accidentally"

      Yeah right ;)

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    2. Hey . . . Pico Maus did it for the entire NA server to see. No doubt it was an accident, and it was funny as heck to watch the video.

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  4. "The reason for that is that such a system is less forgiving for casual players (hardcore players would get insane crews much faster and there would be a lot of them)"

    fuglogic.jpg

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  5. "no additional test server will be implemented, devs are happy with current situation"

    Maybe the patch will hit live before the Campaign?

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    1. No, sorry for being unclear. I didn't mean a test round here, but a physical server. You know - capacity and all.

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    2. Ah ok, thanks for clarifying that. Already got my hopes up :(

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  6. Question to SS: Do you know anything about the aufklaerungspanzer not receiving the buffs that it was announced that it will?

    I checked things between the stats that you gave in our of your 8.6 preview patchnotes and the current 8.6 server stats, and the afkpanzer still has its old stats

    (A.K.A. it didnt receive any buffs at all)

    Thanks in advance
    -imperiumgraecum-

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    1. Sorry. Maybe they simply decided not to implement them, or they will appear in next iteration of test.

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    2. Its name is AwfulPanther, it is meant to remain awful ;) .

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    3. VK16.02 was made bigger, which means that Awfulpanther was buffed by not being so huge in comparison anymore. Or something. Idk.

      Goblin_5

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  7. "- the dynamic camera is still being discussed, but devs will definitely reduce the camera "jump" after shooting" Meh, I like the jump. There's a great feel to it when you push the button and the camera jumps like hell when you fire.

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  8. "-intertia is not taken into account when moving the turret"

    what dose it mean? that if u turn ur turent 90° and someone shoots the backside of the turent it will count as it was on 0° turent position (to the side - where the ammo is?)

    ???

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    1. "Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to a change in its state of motion or rest"

      I think it means that it will not start slow and take a while to reach its maximum turning speed.

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    2. thx

      i misread it -> interior

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  9. "- while final patchnotes are not realized, the fact that tier 7 arty can fight tier 5-6 teams (as a top tank) is intentional and will be even in the live server"

    This, this here shows how shitty these guys are. Yes, it's awesome to get one-shot by arty your tier, and it'll be even more awesome getting killed by the splash of these things when you're a tier or two lower. These no good garbage devs don't realize that arty, even for it's tier, can hold it's own in matches two tiers higher, in current and future implementation. And it's massively OP when it's top tier.

    These devs just made the situation of arty being OP (which they admitted) to making them god-like. Idiots.

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    1. I had to come back to check which arties are tier 7.

      SU-14-1, GwPanther, M12, Lorraine 155 50.

      Wow, WG actually expects tier 5 vehicles to survive against arties that can one shot them twice (GwP, M12, Lorr155) or even three-four times (SU-14-1).

      What?

      Seriously, what?

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    2. I see no problem with it. If you get direct hit by one of them, bad luck; but the alternative is to go toe-to-toe with as IS and ding-ding-ding off him while be absolutely obliterates you. The arty changes may feel weird at first, but I think they make sense.

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    3. Yep, WG really are shit devs. Usually I refrain from strong language, but I'm so damned pissed at these no good devs. And the accuracy nerfs, only in numbers, because in execution on the test server they're more predictable than ever, especially in high tier. Garbage.

      Give me land combat WT.

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    4. Yeah, the changes make sense... so arty, especially while grinding the trees, can one-shot tanks more often, either from direct hits and/or splash. Seeing arty at T8 at the top of MM facing tier 5-6 tanks. MAKES SENSE amirite? You should put your application in at WG, sounds like you're their kind of person.

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    5. Idiots go and play low tier arties, they CANT HIT NOTHINK, long reload, bed aiming, total crap accuracy and shell travel time is 4 sec. They killed arts in tier 2-7, try S51 is total bulshit. Tops arties like obj and GWe can still own in good hands, T92 and Bat nerfed to the ground.

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    6. cant understand the whining, before patch 0.8.0 every T5 MT and TD could get to tier 8 battles and tier 5 heavys to tier 10, but after it was changed to 2 tier difference players are whining much more. Think about it, at least u can now penetrate every T7 tank what can oneshot u in your heavy not like before with tier 9.

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    7. "They killed arts in tier 2-7... Tops arties ... can still own in good hands,"

      So tier 8 arties are the sweet spot?

      IT SUCKS THAT I HAVE TO STOP PLAYING SU-26 WITH GOLD!!!

      But at Tier 8 awesome accuracy and acceptable movement characteristics with thousands of damage shells, and the matchmaker buff ... Poor tier 6 tanks with 800 health!!! I think the poor slow T-150 and KV-2 are going to be on the top of my 1 shot kill list!!

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    8. Arties will ruin this game just WG is blind to see it. Cogs are turning already and competitor is raising (WT) and if they don't do but one thing better than WG and just plan the role of arties better for high levels then lot of players will choose it instead of the constant and boring hiding from arties.

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    9. If you still belive that the total IQ score of every Wg employe is more than that of a Dung Beetle, you are going to have a bad time.

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    10. They should leave current arty as is but move it two tiers higher and lock to battle the same tier and higher only. This would be OK for both arty players and tank players, just look on such German tree:

      I - N/A
      II - N/A
      III - Bison
      IV - Sturmpanzer II
      V - Wespe
      VI - Grille
      VII - Hummel
      VIII - GW Panther
      IX - GW Tiger
      X - GW Typ E

      Of course whiners gonna whine but such move would be much easier for WG and arty wouldn't be OP like is on test server. Even more, arty still could be playable.

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  10. is the E-25 in the test server?

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    1. It exists in the files AFAIK (remember seeing some height comparison with the Hetzer), but only supertesters can play it; it will likely be released in one of the following updates.

      -Platypusbill

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  11. "- no additional test server will be implemented, devs are happy with current situation"

    So there wont be 112 on this patch?

    DAMN!

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    1. we'll probably see it in 8.7

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    2. In 3 months. Blargh......

      .. Ohh well.... back to the boring old slow T34 moneygrind.

      Blah blah blah.

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    3. play Super Pershing, then u know what boring slow moneygrind is.

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  12. I came across a post on WoT forums that says you could make some gold by buying the inscriptions(half price this weekend) that will be removed in 8.6.I was wondering if it is worth the risk, after all, the 83 HE shell thingy might happen again,this time with gold.
    What do you think ?

    BTW,congrats on 4 million views. Keep it up :)

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  13. - SerB is personally for the SU-26 122mm gun removal

    personally what...?

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    1. Seems like SerB were killed thousand times by SU-26. He do hate that 'IMBA' gun ....

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  14. "SerB is personally responsable for the SU-26 122mm gun removal"

    Wow the butthurt that SerBy got from that SU-26 must have been massive and since he is 100% asshole it must have hurt all over.

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    1. It doesn't say Serb is personally responsible for it, it says that he is personally for it, as in he himself believe it should have its gun removed, not that it was him alone that did it.

      Besides, the Su-26 was OP.

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    2. Serb is=he is
      personally=in person
      responsible=takes responsibility

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  15. Unified gold was promised by KGB long ago. Oh, well...

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    1. Balanced game was promised even before that.

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  16. "- based on yesterday's article on JPZ E-100 (SS: see earlier blog post, I translated it), Storm will re-check the influence of ventilation on masking"

    What? Lol.

    The test that you linked yesterday didn't contain any results that would allow to measure influence of ventilation on camouflage.

    Only first and third line in that table of results contain data that could be (in theory) used for comparison purposes - if not for a simple fact that ventilation doesn't give bonus to camo skill unless the skill is actually selected (at least that's how it worked last year when we tested it with Snib).

    Even if it did, the gained detection distance for a vehicle with such miniscule base camo would be about 0.42 m.

    Are you sure Storm wasn't simply trolling?

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  17. - camo mechanism was reworked because the developers wanted to improve the effect of camo net and camo pattern and also to get rid of the 2-bush exploit

    Yea bcs stupid newbs are too lazy to learn how to use it not fucking exploit by themselve so it's easier for their tiny brains to go to forum and cry like a fucking cunts when they got shot by fucking bushes. If they had even a bit of brain in ther empty pumpkin heads those horrifying bushes wouldn't killed them. They can freely remove all maps without any solid cover with lots of bushes like Malinovka and Prokhorovka from the game bcs if this dumbed down camo system stays the same as on test server those two maps would be fucking shooting practice ranges.

    - there will be no rebalance (compensation) of tanks that pre 8.6 relied heavily on their accuracy, like the E-50 and some players think they lost the edge in 8.6, since all tanks are more accurate
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    We buffed indirectly our soviet precious tanks and fuck you and your Kratu snipers. Don't like them don't play them.

    - no additional test server will be implemented, devs are happy with current situation
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    So they are happy with invisible tanks appearing 10 seconds later behind you, they are happy with huge fps drops without any reason?

    - accuracy was improved roughly by 20 percent in 0.8.6, devs don't consider it overpowered
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    Another bullshit. Most of the guns are now like lasers, and if it was only 20% there still would be a lot of misses, but there isn't at all.

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    1. Grow up. Doesn't hurt.

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    2. Grow a brain. Doesn't hurt either.Also have you tried TS at all or you are just as usually acting like an internet smartass telling everyone to grow up assuming they are kids?
      Or at least write your argument with what part of my comment you dissagre and why. Spoiled brat.

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  18. - no additional test server will be implemented, devs are happy with current situation

    They should fix that fucking HORRIBLE sound. Have they even listen to the forums? i better pack up the current 8.5 sound files, because in 8.6 the sound is utter shit and fades out all the time.

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  19. - the Nvidia issue was not yet fixed, there are still problems apparently

    apparently my not even year old gf660ti died when playig a company. hell yeah..

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    1. You fire behind 2 bushes and only the closer bush camofactor disappears but the other one is still effective and you remain invisible. The firing bushes impact with other words. The life of the TDs will be more risky.

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  21. Lol they didn't fix this nvidia crash yet. Between that, single-core poorly optimized engine, and their arty balancing, I'm pretty sure SerB and Storm would be required by US law to wear a helmet at all times.

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  22. - VK7201 Failowe won't be obtainable thru random battles

    Does that mean that the M60 and Object 907 will be?

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  23. "- when deciding what vehicle gets the XL spall liner, base weight was taken into account, that's why the T110E3 doesn't have it"

    The T110E3 does get the XL Spall liner on the test server???

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  24. "- there will be no rebalance (compensation) of tanks that pre 8.6 relied heavily on their accuracy, like the E-50 and some players think they lost the edge in 8.6, since all tanks are more accurate"

    I don't get the reasoning behind the compensation. I thought, that the german guns will be more accurate too, so they will remain the most accurate, along with some british guns.

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    1. You can't be more accurate from some level. In 0.8.5 you had advantage in long range battles, in 0.8.6 this advantage will be lost and German vehicle players will be left with burning and much less bouncing tanks.
      You can go for hit exchange with KV-1s or IS now, in 0.8.6 it will be risky like hell - they will not miss so often and you'll hit him with 200 dmg and you'll get 400 dmg.

      This is not direct but still German tank nerf and Soviet tank buff.

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  25. Hey guys, if you still think arty will be OP in 8.6 then try to use it on testserver. They are sucks, like gwpanther was the most accurate arty, with good mobility, now it will be about same character like su-8, they nerfed it hard (less horsepower, less turningspeed, bad aiming time, inaccurate). So after patch dont wait for arty to help you, becouse got equal chance to hit you or the enemy tank.

    The_Pho

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  26. they should just make the British medium tank HESH have the same pen and damage as standard ammo (pen increases, but damage lowers).

    because if they do, it will be much more reliable, which the current one greatly lacks.

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    1. I mean same damage stat-wise.

      HEAT ammo has more pen than standard ammo, why can't HESH ammo be a standard ammo with the benefits of being an explosive shell.

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  27. About the object 907, idk if somebody else noticed it before, but it appears in the dropdown list when you try to retrain a crew to another tank. I retrained some crew during this EU special to some tanks I don't yet own and lo and behold; the object 907 popped up there.

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