what is the point in having a GW tiger P with ~51 sec rld and then the Gw tiger (t9) with the very same gun, same stats in terms of accuracy and aimtime but a rld of 48 sec.
to be fair i like this patch, it's going to help me unlock GWtypeE from my GWtiger and forget SPG forever. Then i will need to use some free xp to unlock GWtigerP or take again GWpanther and grind some games!!! well we'll se the xp needed to unlock on public test!
I guess they will sell the items like +20% accuracy, -20% aim time with high price. So arty players have to choice between the terrible grind with original stat or buy premium to have the pre-8.6 stat. A stone kills 2 birds.
Strong ones will prevail ? As a strong player (1500 Effi), I can call this simply - Fuck this version, fuck these nerfs. Dont get me wrong, I love playing as Heavy Tank, but they should just do fucking LIMIT - 2 arties per team. Not god damn nerf like that ...
Looks like will be buff of splash in HE ammo. Shooting with t92 woudl be efective only with prem ammo without it. Or they will change accuracy not that bad as now
Doesn't look like there will be a price change unless that stat is the only one not yet to be played with on the supertest.
Tier 10 arty for 3.4m creds, that's cheap.
Wonder if they will or not, there was always a jump from tier 4 price to tier 5 which has been filled with the new SPG's at that level. Almost like it was planned a long time ago.....
Definitely not the correct prices, at the moment the current StPzII costs 51,000 credits, will be moved to Tier4 and cost the same, while the Pz.Slf. IVb will cost 150,000 credits on tier4. 1 arty costs 100,000 credits more because its .. new? same in comparing the new tier9 arty, the m53/55, which costs 3,550,000 credits, with the T92 (tier10, obviously), which strangely costs 3,545,000 credits, less than the tier9 predecessor.
Well its a supertest they probably just didnt finish all the pricing yet. It should cost about the equivalent of same tier tanks(t8 2,4mil.... t10 6,1mil and so on)
They really went wrong way with this nerf. Yes there will be less arty but they just erased any skill left in playing arty(not much of it now but little is better than nothing) and replaced it with a toss of a coin if you actually hit something. The biggest arty problem 1000+dmg and one shoting tanks will still be there, now even more random with more rage from anyone thats get hit. Nerf damage to hell and make it more difficult to actualy shoot( that stupid drone aim system makes things too easy) bring skill to arty not take it away....
As i see now the only playable arties will remain obj261(of course its russian) and batchat 155...but with a 0.84 acc and 1,41 rof, the gwtypE is officially dead...and so is the t92
Sturmpanzer II=t4 Wespe=t3?!?! wtf Looks a Little bit UP this Sturmpanzer II or is it just me? -Mppol
PS: My opinion that this nerfs are much too large didn't change... Looks like there aren't many artyplayers left after the patch - I won't play my GW Panther after this patch, but I think there's a big shitstorm incoming on WG... I guess already after the fist testserver and although there were much whiners about arty you'll find this majority on the side of the Pro-Arty-guys..
This is why I hate mentally handicapped people like the majority of the people in random battles such as all the Polish children... Arty was alright before the last idiot biased arty nerfs and now it gets destroyed even further just because the noobs are unable to l2p.
One thing less that separates skilled players from unskilled players when winrate of solo randoms is already influenced by idiots that even can lose you battles after doing 10.000 damage in a tier 8 medium...
I just wonder if the prices of the arties will really stay so low, i though when they announced Tier 10 arty that they will price it like every others Tier 10 with 6.100.000 Credits and really wonder if this will be decided in the last days before public testing or even after the first round of testing right before the patch. What are u thinking about the pricing of the arties?
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ReplyDeletethanks, for your great work, also at night. :)
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ReplyDeletewhat is the point in having a GW tiger P with ~51 sec rld and then the Gw tiger (t9) with the very same gun, same stats in terms of accuracy and aimtime but a rld of 48 sec.
That is just like leveling the same tank twice.
SU-14 and Obj 212 are already like this, Obj 212 is faster, it has higher ROF and it holds more ammo but they share the same guns.
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Great stuff. Question, though- are there screenshots out there of the tier 2 German arty? It's not that Pz4 derivative, is it?
ReplyDeleteIt's a captured british light tank converted into arty. The proto-heuschreke is tier 4.
DeleteNew rule, stay the fuck away from 50 meters of any enemy tank, god know where the retards are ganna fling their shit after the patch.
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY :D
DeleteSo if I have a GWP now in 8.5 , will I get a GWT (P) in 8.6?
ReplyDeleteNo your GWP just goes up a tier and down in usefulness :(
DeleteI regret playing arty till the point of GWP . -_-
DeleteThe actual GW Tiger will be placed in tier 8 or 9? What i'll receive if I have it in the garage?
ReplyDeleteTier 9. You will still have it after the patch, just 1 tier higher
Delete1 tier should be 8, is actually 7, so goes 2 tiers up?
DeleteReload time: 48s
ReplyDeleteAim time: 7.4s
Accuracy: 0,88m
ORGASMIC. This is the nest patch ever.
-kariverson
to be fair i like this patch, it's going to help me unlock GWtypeE from my GWtiger and forget SPG forever. Then i will need to use some free xp to unlock GWtigerP or take again GWpanther and grind some games!!! well we'll se the xp needed to unlock on public test!
ReplyDeleteNo need to waste free XP for GW Tiger P, it should be unlocked if you have already GW Tiger unlocked.
DeleteI really hope so, but nowadays u have to be realistic, WG is not giving anything more for free, not even new modules on full researched tanks.
DeleteIf you plan to get the GW TypE after the patched, it will already destroyed by the ......... patch itself :/
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Ill be very grateful if you let people to see all models without unnecessary account.
ReplyDeleteGW Panther accuracy 0.7???
ReplyDeleteimho it's a long time overdue that Arty gets an Accuracy Nerf - for the sake of the Gameplay - i appreciate these News
ReplyDeleteDo you appreciate being shot by your team's inaccurate arty too? ;-)
Deletewell, i hope that playing Artillery becomes less attractive, so we see less of it, which will improve the Game-Play of WoT in my opinion..
DeleteI don' mind if every one goes play arty but how about TD's it's really noob way to play
DeleteI guess they will sell the items like +20% accuracy, -20% aim time with high price. So arty players have to choice between the terrible grind with original stat or buy premium to have the pre-8.6 stat. A stone kills 2 birds.
ReplyDeleteGood thing is, Wargaming does not like Pay2Win, so it will not happen.
DeleteStill, i weep for my GW Panther. It got hit very hard.
Uh, in China they like Pay2Win. So they might actually do this for Artillery players in CHINA.
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ReplyDeleteBy the stats of lower tiers.. I think that the most of new players will not even think about grinding the artillery and that is a good thing!
ReplyDeleteOnly strong ones will prevail!
Strong ones will prevail ? As a strong player (1500 Effi), I can call this simply - Fuck this version, fuck these nerfs.
DeleteDont get me wrong, I love playing as Heavy Tank, but they should just do fucking LIMIT - 2 arties per team.
Not god damn nerf like that ...
Looks like will be buff of splash in HE ammo. Shooting with t92 woudl be efective only with prem ammo without it. Or they will change accuracy not that bad as now
ReplyDeleteDoesn't look like there will be a price change unless that stat is the only one not yet to be played with on the supertest.
ReplyDeleteTier 10 arty for 3.4m creds, that's cheap.
Wonder if they will or not, there was always a jump from tier 4 price to tier 5 which has been filled with the new SPG's at that level. Almost like it was planned a long time ago.....
It'll be definitely 6.1 Million Credits... since that's what all Tier 10 Vehicles are.
DeleteDefinitely not the correct prices, at the moment the current StPzII costs 51,000 credits, will be moved to Tier4 and cost the same, while the Pz.Slf. IVb will cost 150,000 credits on tier4. 1 arty costs 100,000 credits more because its .. new?
Deletesame in comparing the new tier9 arty, the m53/55, which costs 3,550,000 credits, with the T92 (tier10, obviously), which strangely costs 3,545,000 credits, less than the tier9 predecessor.
fuck logic, i'd say.
Well its a supertest they probably just didnt finish all the pricing yet. It should cost about the equivalent of same tier tanks(t8 2,4mil.... t10 6,1mil and so on)
DeleteNo numbers from the French arty supertest?
ReplyDeleteUh don't you see the FR arty article? Check today's articles in the menu on the right side
DeleteThey really went wrong way with this nerf. Yes there will be less arty but they just erased any skill left in playing arty(not much of it now but little is better than nothing) and replaced it with a toss of a coin if you actually hit something. The biggest arty problem 1000+dmg and one shoting tanks will still be there, now even more random with more rage from anyone thats get hit.
ReplyDeleteNerf damage to hell and make it more difficult to actualy shoot( that stupid drone aim system makes things too easy) bring skill to arty not take it away....
As i see now the only playable arties will remain obj261(of course its russian) and batchat 155...but with a 0.84 acc and 1,41 rof, the gwtypE is officially dead...and so is the t92
ReplyDeleteThe GW Mk4 wasn't supposed to be a premium arty? o.o
ReplyDeleteSeems the german will have 2 bridge arties now instead of 1.One at tier3 and one at tier4.
Sturmpanzer II=t4 Wespe=t3?!?! wtf
ReplyDeleteLooks a Little bit UP this Sturmpanzer II or is it just me?
-Mppol
PS: My opinion that this nerfs are much too large didn't change...
Looks like there aren't many artyplayers left after the patch - I won't play my GW Panther after this patch, but I think there's a big shitstorm incoming on WG... I guess already after the fist testserver and although there were much whiners about arty you'll find this majority on the side of the Pro-Arty-guys..
This is why I hate mentally handicapped people like the majority of the people in random battles such as all the Polish children... Arty was alright before the last idiot biased arty nerfs and now it gets destroyed even further just because the noobs are unable to l2p.
ReplyDeleteOne thing less that separates skilled players from unskilled players when winrate of solo randoms is already influenced by idiots that even can lose you battles after doing 10.000 damage in a tier 8 medium...
I agree, people are morons and not using the map and obstacles to their advantage. But choose instead to whine and call for a nerf.
DeleteI just wonder if the prices of the arties will really stay so low, i though when they announced Tier 10 arty that they will price it like every others Tier 10 with 6.100.000 Credits and really wonder if this will be decided in the last days before public testing or even after the first round of testing right before the patch. What are u thinking about the pricing of the arties?
ReplyDeleteWin rates with arty are only 50% (avg) as it is. Once you get past the high win rates of T2-3. =)
ReplyDeleteYou can check this yourself on Noobmeter SPG All Tier list.
One would hope the prices stay low its bad enough if all one did was grind artillery.
T8 - Gw Tiger P price 2 650 000
ReplyDeleteT9 - Gw Tiger price 2 900 000
T10 Gw Typ E price 3 540 000
everything is right?