Indienpanzer (unresearched, stock, elite, modules)
Leopard Prototyp A (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
Leopard I (unlocked, modules, elite)
VK2001(D) (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
VK3001(D) (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
Aufklärungspanzer Panther (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
Soviet tree
T-60 (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
T-70 (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
T-80 (unresearched, modules, stock, elite)
Leo 1 is a very nice tank to play with.... awesome.
ReplyDeleteNot very good, not very bad. I'd say balanced.
DeleteToo bad the servers went down for some reason
What I am interested in is Vk3601H has got the new konisch. Care to post VK3601Hs stats? Any changes?
ReplyDeleteYes we want new VK36.01H stats, OMG that tanks with new konisch is really a HT tier6, can't wait to play it !!!! Also premium ammo that finally does the difference! (for istance i play 3601 with 7,5L70)
DeleteThe konisch is great. 158 DMG 167 PEN. More DPM with it than with 8.8 and 0.34 accu.
DeleteCorrection:
DeleteAP/APCR
DMG 165
PEN 157/221
I mixed it up sry.
So now the VK really is op?....Are ap rounds cheap?
DeleteHmm, Leopard Proto with a rof of 5...
ReplyDeletedont cry, same as Cent 7/1 and still working just excellent.
DeleteI drive US Tanks so I'm not that concerned aboiut this release outher than that there will be even more VK0123 named tanks I can't tell apart!
ReplyDeleteIts nice that you don't care. So could you have not said anything about them in the first place? Or did you do that to get replies? If so, you are successful.
DeleteIt was really just about the annoying German naming conventions, to be honest.
Deleteas opposed to all the TXX US tanks?
DeleteWhat's annoying with VK[weight in tons].[version number]?
DeleteExample: VK28.01 means 28 tons tank, version 1. Usually the manufactorer gets added behind that, so that a Tiger is called Tiger (H), because it's made by Henschel or VK30.02 (DB) because of Daimler-benz.
That's pretty clear, isn't it?
Bro, you realise, that a VK0123 would be the 23rd version of a vehicle weighting 1 tone? xD
DeleteVK0123.... wouldn't that be a VW Beetle?
DeleteYeah I need to get to grips with it. It's just a joke with some players I know eabout the time it takes to remember what a "PzKpfw 38H735 (f)" as opposed to a "PzKpfw S35 739 (f)" when you're in the middle of a battle!
Deletethat means VK36 cant link to VK3002DB anymore?
ReplyDeleteYes. And the link from the DB to the Panther is also gone.
DeleteYep, it all start from Panzer III to vk3001DB and back to vk3002DB
DeleteGot mine researched already, "just in case" :3
Deletethe aufklärungspanzer panther looks quite hilarious with that big hull and the tiny stock turret in contrast
ReplyDelete~WW
I wonder how the hell it was deemed competitive. I'm looking at T71 and ask myself "how?". It even has less View Range (meaning is worse as a scout) despite being bigger. Seriously, WTF?! The only good thing (for now) about that tank is that Koenisch finally got a buff.
DeleteSame feeling, aufklarungspanzer is rubbish. Not scout, not med, big like maus... Biggest fail of this patch.
DeleteWhat are the changes to VK3002DB. Did the old engine get replaced by the new engines, and do we have to research the engines again?
ReplyDeleteTop engine is the same, just a second one available. Other than that didn't notice any changes apart from the name change.
DeleteThe top engine has 30 horse power less....a ninja nerf...
DeleteRoF of the L/70 at least went up, conversely - from ~10/13 to ~13/15 (first and second turrets respectively).
DeleteThe shorty 88 may have gotten something similar, but since it looks rather useless for the tier in any case I kinda ignored it. (Can't re-check as the client crashed on me when I tried to join a battle, and now I'm getting "server busy"...)
What's the point of the 20.01D? Statwise it is inferior to the Pz III in almost every aspect. And both lead only to the Pz III/IV. So, why should I play the 20.01?
ReplyDeleteIs the AFK Panther --> Idien Pz. research cost the same as VK3002DB --> Idien Pz. ?
ReplyDeletePretty sure not - the costs of changing the branh (like here: from light to med) was always higher than of just advancing one tier up in the branch.
DeleteBut this isn't exactly changing branches because they both converge on the same tank with no other route to take.
DeleteThe WZ-120 cost the same to research from both the T-34-2 and the WZ-132 so maybe its the same here.
Installing test now - gotta see if new tanks are good.
ReplyDeleteyou wont, server is hammered so chance to connect is very slim, Ill wait till midnight today. :p
ReplyDeleteI connected and only had to wait 800 player queue - about 1-2 minutes.
DeleteProbably downloaded faster than russian themselves :D 2MB/S
Eh...I've downloaded the .patch files much earlier and I was one of the first 200 players connected...
DeleteFunny thing was that ai had to wait 3-5 mins to get in my first match with Indien-pz...
it would be nice to see also prices in credits, so i know how much farming is before me
ReplyDeleteDoes the T-80 get scout matchmaking?
ReplyDeleteso the 9cm gun for Proto Leo has better DPM than the 105 gun? what kind of stupid shit is this?
ReplyDeleteThe 0cm gun stats look great too. Leo proto+9cm+gold ammo=T62A like gun stats minus lower damage.
No point using the 105mm. I dont grind a fucking paper medium to have IS-4 rof.!!! FUCK YOU WG!! FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
U mad?
DeleteIt's rather normal that higher apha guns have lower dpm...
I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED TO GET HOME, I QUIT THIS JOB!
ReplyDeleteI GOT VIRTUAL TANKS TO PLAY WITH NIGGA!!
QQ
Lol, it would be acceptable for Leo proto T9 to have 5 fucking RoF if it had some decent armor, but with that paper armor and that RoF it doesn't have any pros....LOL again at WG and their way of balance..
ReplyDeleteyes, lets give it same rof as E50 but 40mm more penetration, great idea, they should hire you to balance the tanks
DeleteCompare the armor on E50 and on proto and stop being smartass...tell me then why is everyone talking how 90mm from Indien panzer is better solution for proto than 105mm bcs the RoF is double....just shut up and don't act like you collect all of the worlds wisdom...
DeleteSS, what do you think about the Indien-Panzer? In my opinion, it is a slightly improved version of the Panther II, but (sadly) plays quite similar. I hoped for a brawler like the Pershing or T-44, but this tank lacks the mobility to do so.
ReplyDeleteBTW: The armour is worse than you may think....
The hull slope is good, but the vehicle is SLOW and the armor is broken by anything that doesn't aim on the strongest spots. Not bad, plays like Panther. Hull is very nimble.
DeleteYes, the Indien-Panzer is good and balanced, but not a "different" German Medium like the Leopards. Also, behind the big gun mantle of the Indien-Panzer, there is no armour. So, any hull down tactics are obsolete. In short: if you don't want to go for the Leopard and already have a Panther II, there is nearly no reason to grind to this tank.
DeleteDon't forget that the Indien-Panzer has a higher "Balance weight", which is as high as a Tier VIII Heavy, compared to the Panther II.
"Don't forget that the Indien-Panzer has a higher "Balance weight", which is as high as a Tier VIII Heavy, compared to the Panther II."
DeleteHow do you know that? Can you post a source of that info?
http://gamemodels3d.com
DeleteTested new mediums of Leo line:
ReplyDeleteIndien-panzer - low cruise speed, yet decently armored. Gun is normal too.
Prototype Leo - very fast for T9, gun is very good too. No armors, tried sidescraping - it doesnt work. Rely on speed.
Leopard 1 - very agile. Very fast aiming gun, yet it feels like it lacks of RoF - already want to shoot but I see its still reloading (needs a buff big time).
Overall - Indien is not the fastest but at least better than stupid T-43.
Leo Prot - very good for its own tier.
Leo 1 - fast moving, fast locking on targets, but lacks RoF.
No new weapons/stat changes for the Vk3002DB? curses! T_T
ReplyDeleteDB 30.01 is now a better tank to play. Same agility, armour and gun, but one tier lower. 88 on 7 tier sucks, and schmalturm is too slow to rotate. 30.02 has no advantages. I will sell it as fast as I research indien.
DeleteThe more I'm hearing the more I'm thinking I might want to just skip the Leopard line. Its not sounding like it will really be playable.
ReplyDeleteThough the E-100 now carries more shells with it's 15 cm gun..
ReplyDeleteAka 50 Shells instead of 28 Shells that is a plus I guess...
First impression based on the post (still DLing the test client ATM):
ReplyDelete- new!Konisch looks to be awesum stat-wise; not sure if I'll be able to tolerate the appearance on the VK36 Grossturm though (looks damn stupid) :/
- Auklarungskugelbagelpanzer Panther looks very, very silly but we knew that already :P
- the new Soviet lights are HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG cute, as long as the T-80 doesn't get scout MM might buy one just because :3
- the Leo looks scary...
You can actually mount Konisch in the stock turret on VK36. no need for that fugly top bucket
Delete/strv
Fair enough - but that means giving up the hitpoint boost. I'll give you that the rather faster rotation makes the stock turret more useful for brawling an' stuff though.
DeleteAny info about sexton?
ReplyDeletei know it has 6 crew and 3 type of ammo: ap he and prem ap but its range?
nice work indeed...as always...hmm looks like my VKDB radio guy will be again alone with another radios-buddys in barracks - no love for these mens :|
ReplyDeleteYou can now reserch the tiger 2 from the panther, thats kinda strange.
ReplyDeleteIf I understand correctly, king tiger was developed from panther, not tiger.
Deleteit is stupid that panther2/e50/e50m tanks are less agile and have worse guns than new line. probably also worse gun depression And easily flammable front transmission. I hope at least independent suspension update will give them great accuracy on the move. If not, old med line looks rather shitty in comparision to new
ReplyDeleteHahaha... easily flammable front transmission on E50m? The whole Leopard is one fucking weakspot, have you even tried it on test before writting this?
DeleteIn my and many peoples opinion Leopard cant compete with better E50m.
When you try to retrain crew to a new tank go to german heavy line and all the way at the bottom there is the VK7201 (K). On the russian medium line all the way at the bottom of the retrain list you will find Obj 907 and on the american medium line at the bottom of the retrain list the M60 will be found :D
ReplyDeleteYea...but what's the use of that if no-one except the flawless russian super-testers will test them?...
DeleteI just pointed it out...
DeleteAnyone know the credit cost of the Indien-Panzer? All the screenshots I see show only the XP cost. I came up with 2,420,000 by the difference on SS's account, but maybe he bought some other stuff. Can anyone confirm?
ReplyDelete-Canti
well it certainly will be between 2,4 and 2,6 mil.
DeleteId say the exact value isnt that important because the difference isnt that big, or is it just me...
Is it me or the Aufklarungspanther is really not that bad at all?
ReplyDeleteI mean, its great!
Kaz, care to elaborate? So far everyone seems to go mad about IndienP and Leo, but AufPanther goes largely unnoticed. Would You give us a brief description, pretty please?
DeleteThe unresearched shot from the T-60 is missing.
ReplyDeletewhat happens if we have an elite VK3002(DB) after the 8.5 patch?
ReplyDeletebefore i mean
Deletewhat happens after the update if we have an elite VK3002(DB) before the 8.5 patch?
ReplyDeleteI am very amazed by the information of this blog and i am glad i had a look over the blog. thank you so much for sharing such great information.it really helped me alot.
ReplyDeletePleasanton employment shuttle