tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post5695615657528483937..comments2023-11-05T11:52:06.343+01:00Comments on For the Record: American Vehicle Q&A SubmissionsSilentstalkerFTRhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03345351411597408992noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-70478650497950901282013-04-30T15:00:39.146+02:002013-04-30T15:00:39.146+02:00Why not call them Pershing? T20 is a pre-Pershing ...Why not call them Pershing? T20 is a pre-Pershing prototype, T21 is lightly armoured T20. M46 saw hardly any changes, especially in its appearance when being renamed and T25/2 is a Jackson-like turret on a Pershing-like hull.<br />So yes, they're all Pershings.<br /><br />As for the other T25, it might be included in the mid branch, but what would be the difference to M46 with its 105mm?<br />And putting another mid into the TD branch is just ridiculous.<br />Maybe as a prem mid, but prems are usually included in a more historical config, so it would again get the 90mm.LoserDestinyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00082499457156192619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-90244485136856282672013-04-29T11:28:30.631+02:002013-04-29T11:28:30.631+02:00You cant call them Pershings because theyre a diff...You cant call them Pershings because theyre a different model of tanks, the M60 can branch all the way back to the Pershing, lets not bother call it the Patton anymore! Lets call the M60 the Pershing, and the T95, T54 and T96, genius, seeing the MBT70 uses elements of the T95/T96 you could call that the pershing as well as well aa a certain M1A1 we all know. <br /><br />I do know the real T25 carried a 90mm gun but the one we have currently in game is certainly not the real T25. Why not actually use the real T25 and its proposed design? Wargaming have done it with many tanks before, there was no reason for them to make up a completely different tank and I think you can agree on that which is what I'm trying to say but may of failed to explain and got a little...harsh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-41429542187585669072013-04-29T04:42:09.604+02:002013-04-29T04:42:09.604+02:00@Last anon first: Every question of "will pro...@Last anon first: Every question of "will project_name be implemented" sort is a demand. What else?<br /><br />@Another anon. Shred of reality you say? Now the Real T25 Medium Tank(!) carried the 90mm Gun. How many Pershings do we need more? There are already 6 of them: T20, T21, M26, T26E4, M46 and T25/2 they're all Pershings, some manoeuvrable, some armoured but basically same shit all over again.LoserDestinyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00082499457156192619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-72459595635608171642013-04-29T01:23:10.922+02:002013-04-29T01:23:10.922+02:002nd turret is standard M36 turret and holds 14 x 9...2nd turret is standard M36 turret and holds 14 x 90mm in turret bustle.<br />Rest would have to be stored in hull.bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-89071260636928397482013-04-28T19:01:33.175+02:002013-04-28T19:01:33.175+02:00While true, it would be a tight fit. Seen here: ht...While true, it would be a tight fit. Seen here: http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/ground-warfare/25153d1305782886-pershing-tank-tankgervsuk.jpg<br /><br />76x350 is not all /that/ big when compared to 90x600 which the 90mm gun used. While i do agree that 30 would be a decent guess, it would be slightly innacurate. Considering height to be unimportant if we're talking about vertically stacking shells in an open topped vehicle, since the turret would be unable to handle them stacked horizontally, we get this:<br /><br />Math time. 76mm shell, call it square for ease of calculus. 0.76*0.76 = 0.5776 cm2 per shell. 45*0.5776=25.992 cm2 of space for 76mm ammo.<br /><br />90mm shell. 0.90*0.90=0.81 cm2. 30*0.81=24.3 cm2 of space for 90mm ammo.<br /><br />There seems to be more room for 90mm shells if we take the 76mm ammo capacity as being standard. Using the same estimate.. 25.992 cm2 for 90mm ammo, it would drop us at 32.08 shells.<br /><br />So yes, while i might be cheesy, i really want those extra two rounds, and i think all Hellcat drivers out there that ever got into a 7-8+ kill good match will appreciate the small kindness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-48096357906182988172013-04-28T12:49:13.175+02:002013-04-28T12:49:13.175+02:00Considering it had 45 x 76mm rounds, I doubt much ...Considering it had 45 x 76mm rounds, I doubt much more then 30 x 90mm was possible.<br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-62803759514507397482013-04-28T12:49:09.662+02:002013-04-28T12:49:09.662+02:00M4A2 and A4 probably aren't different enough t...M4A2 and A4 probably aren't different enough to be implemented, and there's already two A3 variants at tier VI. The M4 Improved (the one with the jagged sloping) and the one with the Pershing turret might be added as premiums at some point.<br /><br />-PlatypusbillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-43292055273130010942013-04-28T12:47:34.854+02:002013-04-28T12:47:34.854+02:00D-10 should be slightly more (scaling to 88/71 abo...D-10 should be slightly more (scaling to 88/71 about 190mm), and scaling with that and Yugo tests in '60s M36 would be ~175-180mm. Not that much difference and I am not sure if worth bothering rebalancing guns. <br /><br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-21955296423153698212013-04-28T12:43:34.603+02:002013-04-28T12:43:34.603+02:00Those guns could actually fit (FFS 85mm S-53 gun c...Those guns could actually fit (FFS 85mm S-53 gun could fit in original T-34 turret), it is just that elevation/depression and rate of fire would be inadequate.<br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-1973808538366600882013-04-28T11:49:21.662+02:002013-04-28T11:49:21.662+02:00"Go do some reading before you demand, kid!&q..."Go do some reading before you demand, kid!"<br /><br />Wasn't he asking a question and not making a demand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-50988572571594952902013-04-28T08:35:54.561+02:002013-04-28T08:35:54.561+02:00I thought penetration of M36 and D-10T "both&...I thought penetration of M36 and D-10T "both" are underestimated?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-30808267997723774642013-04-28T05:09:32.152+02:002013-04-28T05:09:32.152+02:00Oh? tons of american tanks actually built? Then wh...Oh? tons of american tanks actually built? Then why are there made up TDs when there are actually some projects that have a shred of reality? I said T25 and assumed everyone would know I'm talking about the real one and not the false one, sad to see it isnt so.<br /><br />I would rather a tank that has a shred of reality then something completely fantasy, I dont know about you but If you like this way of designing tanks, sure, tell Wargaming to dump all realistic tanks and just make there own. It must be rubbish to one more realismAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-29940791678178368392013-04-28T03:30:09.306+02:002013-04-28T03:30:09.306+02:00Other than the T28/95 what were other american sup...Other than the T28/95 what were other american super-heavy tank projects?VonSandvichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13325324847430277563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-5110736309640865052013-04-28T02:25:37.756+02:002013-04-28T02:25:37.756+02:00Hello, can you find any historical info about the ...Hello, can you find any historical info about the Hellcat 90mm gun carriage project having MORE than 30 shells? I really want something to lean on that will improve the Hellcat's sudden end to an awesome 7-8 kill streak. ;PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-13025448550158569462013-04-27T23:10:30.282+02:002013-04-27T23:10:30.282+02:00Bullshit.
Neither was T123 ever mounted on T34 si...Bullshit. <br />Neither was T123 ever mounted on T34 since the tank was long abandoned by the time the gun was developed, <br />nor was T53 rigidly mounted on T34.LoserDestinyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00082499457156192619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-6680179434646088052013-04-27T23:02:05.473+02:002013-04-27T23:02:05.473+02:00Lol take it easy little boy.
Maybe you should expr...Lol take it easy little boy.<br />Maybe you should express yourself in a better way, since I'm not the only one who didn't get your point.<br />"T25 that HAS the 105 gun" - sure, it HAS...<br /><br />Well as for that rubbish "proposal" which existed only on some napkin in an arsenal, 100% it WON'T be implemented. There are tons of American vehicles that were at least actually built.LoserDestinyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00082499457156192619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-15628741693016269072013-04-27T20:51:50.202+02:002013-04-27T20:51:50.202+02:00If the T58 heavy tank (155mm "revolver loaded...If the T58 heavy tank (155mm "revolver loaded") was getting ingame, what would be the most likely balance changes to the vehicle?<br />Regards,<br />Hustodemon from EU serverZewel von Lelekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02969737548286053451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-58835171877296548422013-04-27T20:31:41.603+02:002013-04-27T20:31:41.603+02:00And thanks bojan, would be appreciated :)And thanks bojan, would be appreciated :)SilentstalkerFTRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03345351411597408992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-31723019263055208292013-04-27T20:29:49.995+02:002013-04-27T20:29:49.995+02:00Well, Tuccy won't be too happy about me, so I&...Well, Tuccy won't be too happy about me, so I'll ust write it here :) SilentstalkerCZSilentstalkerFTRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03345351411597408992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-61013944015873636472013-04-27T20:00:02.558+02:002013-04-27T20:00:02.558+02:001. Hull down fighting.
2. Not really thin, M48 gav...1. Hull down fighting.<br />2. Not really thin, M48 gave D-25 and D-10 guns problems which resulted in development of D-54 and M-62 guns (early-mid '50s) and introduction of HEAT ammo for D-10 in 1961.<br />3. NBC protection on radioactive battlefield.<br /><br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-78280926161665708932013-04-27T19:57:07.949+02:002013-04-27T19:57:07.949+02:00SS, sent me or Tuccy your user on TN, we will send...SS, sent me or Tuccy your user on TN, we will send it to mods so it gets approved sooner.<br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-71917848301061438232013-04-27T19:53:54.420+02:002013-04-27T19:53:54.420+02:00Pen of those is not underestimated, eg. in tests v...Pen of those is not underestimated, eg. in tests vs same target (T-54A) M36 performed worse the 100mm D-10T, which in game penetrates 175mm. So it's pen (171mm IIRC) is OK.<br /><br />bojanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17185942985653222470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-88005425584112327162013-04-27T19:07:46.941+02:002013-04-27T19:07:46.941+02:00*Sadface*
Not that there aren't upgrades that...*Sadface*<br /><br />Not that there aren't upgrades that simply wouldn't fit already (see Churchill I/VII and Cromwell with their high-vlocity 75/76mm guns in turrets that couldn't carry them).<br /><br />-PlatypusbillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-42661171126644997122013-04-27T18:41:53.557+02:002013-04-27T18:41:53.557+02:00AND the M47 has a better slope then then the M46 w...AND the M47 has a better slope then then the M46 which gives it more armor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-803236411311363895.post-42543724753183425172013-04-27T18:37:55.543+02:002013-04-27T18:37:55.543+02:00Never heard of the M46A1E1(think its an A1 or it m...Never heard of the M46A1E1(think its an A1 or it might just be a straight E1), so its not an M47.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com